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Title: SID patch question
Post by: Silver on April 13, 2009, 01:01:42 pm
Hey everyone, i love MaSu etc
I just recently bought quadraSID (read: ACTUALLY bought) and I'm not really the type of person that is satisfied with presets, so I've been making my own patches and stuff for it, but I've run into a little snag, i REALLY like the little chippy arp sound that MaSu use on a hell of a lot of their songs. The sound I'm looking for is like the one at the start of Megascorcher
I can't figure out if it's a wavetable or an arpeggio

I've got things that sound similar but I'm not really satisfied with them and I realise I'm not using a real sid station but if anyone (hopefully a band member  ;D) could help out with some preset settings or tips I would greatly appreciate it!

- Avid MaSu fan
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Jack Lupino on April 13, 2009, 06:21:59 pm
Hey dude and welcome on the forums, perhaps you should send gordon a personal message, if he doesnt reply dezo surely will come and poke him later on ;]

Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Ant on April 13, 2009, 10:40:09 pm
Start of Megascorcher sounds like a smooth saw played insanely fast :P
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Silver on April 14, 2009, 02:29:56 am
Thanks for the replies guys, I'll give him a PM, didn't know if I was allowed to lol
I kinda think it's an arpeggio with a wavetable as well, but stuffed if I know what they did with it.
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: dezo on April 14, 2009, 11:18:16 am
Hi and wellcome m8!

I think that the easiest way to get some sort of input on the quadraSID is to ask Robert (Gaz).
We don't use quadraSID that much tho so I don't know how much help you can get from him but he is a studio wiz so asking could not hurt anyways.

Remember to keep it l33t  ;D
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Silver on April 14, 2009, 12:35:46 pm
Thanks! I've already PM'd Gordon, would it be better for me to PM Robert or just have him read the PM I already wrote? (I'm entirely new to this forum lol etc)

I figured you guys wouldn't use quadraSID that much, but i can't afford the real thing so I was hoping on getting some tips on making a similar sound to what you guys use. Tutorials for quadraSID are indeed a bitch to find.

peace
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Drakonis on April 14, 2009, 05:10:04 pm
I don't think Robert would mind if you sent him a PM to ask about it ;)
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: megadokyo on April 14, 2009, 05:40:03 pm
Post all your findings to meee as i have no idea how to use this quadrasid i bought.. may i join your crew?
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: dezo on April 14, 2009, 08:23:59 pm
I'm actually quite interrested in learning more about quadraSID too.
Plix post here if you got any kewl ideas and mebbe, just mebbe the next MaSu album will be done a bit faster =)
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: megashroom° on April 14, 2009, 08:49:29 pm
Seems like you've startet some kind of QuadraSID movement XD.

I'm also interested in how it works.
The interface is just so different from other plugins.

*Goes hunting for exp*
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Ant on April 14, 2009, 08:53:20 pm
I've used it before, year ago now, it's pretty simple once you actually read through the documentation :P
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: megashroom° on April 14, 2009, 08:56:30 pm
I've used it before, year ago now, it's pretty simple once you actually read through the documentation :P

I will  ;)
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Silver on April 15, 2009, 02:52:40 am
hehe well with all these people trying out quadraSID we should be able to make some awesome presets  ;D

It's surprisingly easy to use, although I'm still learning and I'm relatively new to creating SID sounds, all the numbers look frightening when you first start it, but if you actually read the manual it all makes sense.
It also has some nifty presets, I also bought the Rob Hubbard soundbank and for some reason I don't actually like it as much as the default soundbank

The demo is free and just lasts 15 minutes per session I believe, you just restart the host. Although I suppose most people hack it these days...

Edit: As I have no idea what programming sounds on a sidstation is like..... what is it like? What parameters do you use? I just wanna know if quadraSID uses the same ones.
Eg: pulsewidth, arp speed, glide speed, wavetables etc
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: megashroom° on April 15, 2009, 08:21:40 am
SIDstations are really hard to come across these days.

But there is hardSID
http://www.hardsid.com/

Looking good as far as I can tell. Though I have yet to try it out.
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: megadokyo on April 15, 2009, 02:40:53 pm
Ah money, my arch nemesis.
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Lenich on May 23, 2009, 06:18:17 pm
Done with QuadraSID :)
Flight of Toyota (http://lenich.ucoz.ru/MaSu/flightoftoyota6_2.mp3)
and this is attempt to create a megascorcher sound...
Megascorcher (http://lenich.ucoz.ru/MaSu/arp_sss2.mp3)
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Silver on May 24, 2009, 10:35:21 am
Dude that's AWESOME!

You gotta show me how you made that Toyota sound as well as the Megascorcher one!!
pleeeease lol
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: megadokyo on May 24, 2009, 01:09:02 pm
Sounds like 'Rob's Lead 1/3 or 2/3 or 3/3'


But youve changed something so that phasing decay isnt as harsh. Wut? :D
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Blackiris on May 24, 2009, 08:05:20 pm
I agree with those samples being awesome.

But what we really need here is a quadraSID bank preset of all of MaSu's sounds. Especially that Winterstorm one...I'm gonna be reading the manual over and over just for that one. ^^;
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Silver on May 25, 2009, 02:52:41 am
MaSu bank would be teh shiz
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: megadokyo on May 25, 2009, 03:04:43 am
I guess its part of trying everything out also.. but any tips or hints people have please share the wealth of your knowledge here, we're all trying to do the same thing, make great music for us and others to enjoy!


Music is great.. *gets all teary eyes* so.. fubbin great :')
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: Silver on May 25, 2009, 03:07:23 am
Yeah that's why I started this thread, just wanted someone to put me on the right path to makin primarily the megascorcher sound. But other stuff would be awesome too
drool winterstorm
Title: Re: SID patch question
Post by: megadokyo on May 25, 2009, 03:16:52 am
By all means,  make this our cave for stuffing away all the valuables we find that are SID Patch related.. hopefully mainly to QuadraSID as i dont have the money for a SIDStation .