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The Band => Pics & Vids => Topic started by: Valet2 on September 11, 2011, 11:21:02 pm

Title: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on September 11, 2011, 11:21:02 pm
Hey guys!

So, here's my long-awaited video. Now you can download it, show to your friends, share, re-upload and so on. Full version in both English and Russian will be always lying here:

ftp://ftp.valet2.com/masu

If you're in Russia, you may use Russian's most popular torrent-tracker:

http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3726160

Now it's in Full HD (1920x1080), with FOUR audio-tracks:

Original (English), stereo
Russian, overdubbed, stereo (played by default)
Specially mixed in 5.1, original (English)
5.1 Russian, overdubbed

plus Russian subtitles

The size is huge, but there's also 1,5 GB 720p version with only two English tracks.

The duration is 30 minutes, and it consists of interview with the band filmed right before their iconic performance on Assembly, and two live tracks: Rocket Dragon filmed by me and Marko in Tampere (one day before Asselmbly) and Through The Looking Glass filmed with Assembly TV crew (conducted by Garo). Garo has sent me the video files so I made my own edit of the song.

There are three reasons why I made all this:

- I wanted to shoot the band's live performance because there were no nice videos of them. But my first attempt was unsuccessful, and the band disagreed about the filming, because I was just "some guy". But after meeting them twice in 2010 and showing some of my works they agreed.
- I've seen one interview with Gordon and Dezo and I didn't like the way it was made (yeah, the one you may find on youtube). I knew I could do it much better.
- Last year I met Purple Motion (Jonne Valtonen) and made a documentary/interview about him, later uploaded it on youtube, and one guy asked whether I gonna make some more videos "where are they now?". So I realized that someone's interested in that too.

The production took two weeks to make video for Russian demoscene-party Chaos Constructions, and a few days to re-edit it a bit and mix to 5.1.

At first I had an idea to re-record my own voice because it was recorded not properly (with lots of noises), and I messed up with some words, so it's probably hard to understand my accent. But later I decided to leave as it is.

So hope you like it. If not, I'll be happy to get comments which would help to improve my future works... By the way, now I'm working on the interview with Bjorn Lynne who is mostly known as composer / sound guy in the Worms series. I met him is his town Stavern in Norway right after MaSu.

Credits:

All production is mine except:
additional camera in Rocket Dragon - Marko Patokallio
video footage (7 of 10 used cameras) on Assembly - Assembly TV crew
Assembly video partially edited by Juho Makinen
Assembly sound re-edited by Robert himself (only stereo-version)
chiptune tracks composed by Lenich (http://forum.machinaesupremacy.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2390)
Russian voice-over by Eugeny Dememtiev ("overdubber" of tons anime movies in Russia)

Any technical questions? Will be glad to answer and explain.

P.S. Kiuru (http://forum.machinaesupremacy.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2704), was nice to meet you!
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: MashedByMachines on September 12, 2011, 12:14:18 am
Awesome man :)

Could someone out there make a torrent for us non-russians? :)
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: yas‮ on September 12, 2011, 12:18:21 am
Is this the same as the one in the other topic? What's the difference, besides quality? http://forum.machinaesupremacy.com/index.php/topic,7386.0.html
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Crazywater on September 12, 2011, 12:31:13 am
Thanks a lot to you and thanks to the band for making that interview :) it was interesting!
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: MashedByMachines on September 13, 2011, 12:21:02 am
What about that 1GB file? :)
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on September 13, 2011, 10:15:56 am
Tonight. Or tomorrow. Have absolutely no time   :(
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Amdor on September 13, 2011, 11:31:42 pm
Is there any chance of uploading this file elsewhere? Pirate Bay or like? I failed to download it from ftp for the 6th time because of the "source file couldn't be read" or something error which occurs after several hours of downloading. Which takes time, sucking over 5GB monster file with 30KB/s.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: yas‮ on September 13, 2011, 11:41:11 pm
Try using some sort of download manager, ie. FlashGet.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: yas‮ on September 13, 2011, 11:42:42 pm
BTW. I can do Polish subtitles, if you provide me with English ones.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Amdor on September 14, 2011, 12:19:45 am
I even have it installed, but I use it so rarely I forgot about it. But now the ftp demands username and password, so I'll have to wait anyway.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on September 14, 2011, 04:07:32 pm
Amdor, give me your ip-address (don't write here - PM instead). My server could have blocked you. There shouldn't be any passwords to connect to me.

And about the speed - I think it's the overall problem for Russia. You may use some speedtest service to know which is normal transfer speed to Saint-Petersburg. Theoretically I have 1,5 megabytes/second speed, but I see this speed only between connections within the city.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Wheim on September 15, 2011, 08:33:36 pm
Why do everyone suddenly insist on using the Matroska format? Nothing but problems, lots and lots of problems
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Hadou on September 15, 2011, 09:04:59 pm
Why do everyone suddenly insist on using the Matroska format? Nothing but problems, lots and lots of problems

What?
I have no problems with Matroska. Yes, you need to install a codec pack, but if you don't have one of those anyway, you probably shouldn't comment on the quality of a video codec.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on September 15, 2011, 10:13:31 pm
Matroska is the container, and H.264 AVC is the codec.

Try to update your codecs and use a different player. Sometimes VLC is buggy on my computer while playing my own AVC's, and Media Player Classic works fine.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Hadou on September 16, 2011, 12:40:50 am
Matroska is the container, and H.264 AVC is the codec.

Try to update your codecs and use a different player. Sometimes VLC is buggy on my computer while playing my own AVC's, and Media Player Classic works fine.

I use WMP11 because I don't like the grey basic-looking design of VLC. Normally I wouldn't, but my K-Lite codec plays anything I want it to, so I have no reason for VLC.
But also, to play some H.264 videos, you sometimes need a codec pack.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on September 16, 2011, 08:38:45 am
Update: 1,5 gigabytes file uploaded.

Yes, VLC for some reason shows grey. But I figured out how to render real colors - you should try different renders in player's preferences. Can't tell for true which one I'm using now. But it has shitty resampling when resizing, but if you're scaling 1:1 it works great.

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8590/vlcshit.th.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/222/vlcshit.png/)
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on September 16, 2011, 09:31:12 am
Amdor, sorry, I had to block you quickly because you were trying to download the source assembly audio mix that I'm not allowed to share and forgot to remove from my server.

Now you're unblocked.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Wheim on September 16, 2011, 11:52:36 am

I have no problems with Matroska. Yes, you need to install a codec pack, but if you don't have one of those anyway, you probably shouldn't comment on the quality of a video codec.

Of course I know I need a codec, I'm not an idiot. I have tried 4 different media players and a variety of codecs, even on several computers. But there is always something wrong, either its laggy, the audio is missing, or it just simply wont play. But sure, if you could tell me a mediaplayer/codec that actually works, I will try one more time
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Amdor on September 16, 2011, 12:58:11 pm
Me sorry.  :(

But the login window still pops up...
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: MarioMaster100 on September 16, 2011, 05:17:36 pm
If the url of the English version was http instead of ftp it could be easily turned into a torrent with burnbit.com.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Hadou on September 16, 2011, 07:22:02 pm

I have no problems with Matroska. Yes, you need to install a codec pack, but if you don't have one of those anyway, you probably shouldn't comment on the quality of a video codec.

Of course I know I need a codec, I'm not an idiot. I have tried 4 different media players and a variety of codecs, even on several computers. But there is always something wrong, either its laggy, the audio is missing, or it just simply wont play. But sure, if you could tell me a mediaplayer/codec that actually works, I will try one more time

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/k_lite_codec_pack.htm
+ Windows Media Player 11 works fine for me on Windows 7, but I'm sure that VLC works aswell, because I also have that on my comp. Video lag or missing audio is usually nothing to do with codec, and more to do with your system and set up. Graphics lag is your graphics card's problem, and missing audio can be a number of issues, but usually your system sounds.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Wheim on September 17, 2011, 12:25:12 am

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/k_lite_codec_pack.htm
+ Windows Media Player 11 works fine for me on Windows 7, but I'm sure that VLC works aswell, because I also have that on my comp. Video lag or missing audio is usually nothing to do with codec, and more to do with your system and set up. Graphics lag is your graphics card's problem, and missing audio can be a number of issues, but usually your system sounds.

WMP with that codec worked pretty well, but I still get some lag now and then (you know the kind when parts of the screen kinda blurs out and need a couple secs to reset). And I don't get why, because with other formats I can watch 5 HD movies at the same time, if I want to.. probably some settings somewhere, but Ive run out of ideas.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on September 17, 2011, 02:35:00 am
Can you tell at which moments exactly you get artifacts? I assume it's always the same place. And what players did you use, what's your computer configuration? Why I'm asking because I have the same problems with other my own-made long videos, and don't know why. If you can, try 1.5 gb file. If everything goes right I will probably re-convert the fullhd-video with different parameters.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: yas‮ on September 17, 2011, 02:03:52 pm
Is this the same as the one in the other topic? What's the difference, besides quality? http://forum.machinaesupremacy.com/index.php/topic,7386.0.html
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Hadou on September 17, 2011, 04:16:40 pm
Is this the same as the one in the other topic? What's the difference, besides quality? http://forum.machinaesupremacy.com/index.php/topic,7386.0.html

The difference is that this is for the download of the video, whereas the other one is for streaming it, I think. I don't really know as I haven't actually had the time to download the video yet.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on September 17, 2011, 06:34:40 pm
This one has 5.1 surround sound audio track which kicks ass and chews bubble gum.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Hadou on September 17, 2011, 06:45:16 pm
This one has 5.1 surround sound audio track which kicks ass and chews bubble gum.

:D I definitely want a video that can chew gum, I mean, how cool is that?!
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on September 17, 2011, 09:38:28 pm
5.1 is fckng cool! If you have enough speakers to listen to it.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Hadou on September 17, 2011, 09:45:19 pm
5.1 is fckng cool! If you have enough speakers to listen to it.

I don't have the correct set up (but having been to my uncle's house who is a sound engineer, I know it's awesome) and on my computer, I don't any speakers at all. I only have a set of Creative HQ-1600's.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Wheim on September 19, 2011, 02:59:48 am
Can you tell at which moments exactly you get artifacts? I assume it's always the same place. And what players did you use, what's your computer configuration? Why I'm asking because I have the same problems with other my own-made long videos, and don't know why. If you can, try 1.5 gb file. If everything goes right I will probably re-convert the fullhd-video with different parameters.

Sorry for late reply, was out of town for the weekend :)
I always get a bit of lag at the start, when it changes from the DxM logo and the video starts. Other than that its just more or less random trough the video. This was with VLC. Currently running a Pentium dual-core 3Ghz, 6GB ram, GeForce GT320 (I know, this is a pretty low-end card, but you'd be surprised at its performance).

I suspect my problem might be the graphics card, but then again it has never offered me any problems at all, neither at gaming nor watching HD videos, its only this format that keeps annoying me :|
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on September 19, 2011, 06:22:39 pm
Okay, I see. I'm experiencing lags on the same moments in the videos I've made, but only with VLC. Have you tried Media Player Classic?

I can't understand why everyone's coding into H.264 and it works great.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: kingjggff on November 28, 2011, 12:13:19 pm
It sounds like it was recorded in English. Honestly, it probably would have been a better idea to use subtitles rather than a spoken translation laid on top of the original audio. If it were the other way around, and they were translating to English, I'd prefer subs.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on November 28, 2011, 01:13:28 pm
You can switch between spoken languages if you have an option in your player (for example, Media Player Classic or VideoLan VLC can do it).
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Blastyr on November 29, 2011, 07:05:39 pm
It sounds like it was recorded in English. Honestly, it probably would have been a better idea to use subtitles rather than a spoken translation laid on top of the original audio. If it were the other way around, and they were translating to English, I'd prefer subs.
Wow, way to just rip what I said straight from another post (http://forum.machinaesupremacy.com/index.php/topic,7386.msg250961.html#msg250961) without contributing anything of worth to the topic.
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: MashedByMachines on November 30, 2011, 10:35:19 pm
It sounds like it was recorded in English. Honestly, it probably would have been a better idea to use subtitles rather than a spoken translation laid on top of the original audio. If it were the other way around, and they were translating to English, I'd prefer subs.
Wow, way to just rip what I said straight from another post (http://forum.machinaesupremacy.com/index.php/topic,7386.msg250961.html#msg250961) without contributing anything of worth to the topic.

haha wtf? nice one :P
Title: Re: Machinae Supremacy 2011 - interview, documentary, live
Post by: Valet2 on December 01, 2011, 11:47:58 am
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