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Title: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lexx on June 06, 2007, 04:40:40 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxSdbSNckTQ

Holy fuck. Okay, doesn't tell much about the game... but the whole trailer seems to have been made to please the fans. Vault Boy. Ink Spots (the very song they wanted to use in Fallout one but couldn't due to licensing). Power armour. 50's retro. RON FUCKING PEARLMAN. FUCK!

War.. war never changes..
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: L'homme magique on June 06, 2007, 05:03:54 am
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but the whole trailer seems to have been made to please the fans.
does not bode well
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: harvey danger on June 06, 2007, 05:34:09 am
Ah, you beat me. It's been confirmed for all major gaming platforms. (http://www.xboxic.com/news/3016)

"Does not bode well" is right.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Torp v2.0 on June 06, 2007, 12:45:08 pm
War. War never changes. ;D

This could be fun. Stop being so damn pessimistic. Bethesda might actually get this right.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Einkoro on June 06, 2007, 05:31:16 pm
War. War never changes. ;D

This could be fun. Stop being so damn pessimistic. Bethesda might actually get this right.

Bethesda has never got anything else right, why start now?
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: L'homme magique on June 06, 2007, 07:33:08 pm
i mean they didn't even get that "where's waldo" game right, why anyone would trust them with fallout is beyond me.

oh wait, nobody did. they bought it.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Torp v2.0 on June 06, 2007, 07:48:37 pm
War. War never changes. ;D

This could be fun. Stop being so damn pessimistic. Bethesda might actually get this right.

Bethesda has never got anything else right, why start now?

On the contrary. They did get Morrowind right, and they weren't far off with Oblivion.

This shows us that they're pretty good with cRPGs. Fallout lands in the same category. Ergo, they have a good shot at getting it right.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Einkoro on June 06, 2007, 11:02:04 pm
War. War never changes. ;D

This could be fun. Stop being so damn pessimistic. Bethesda might actually get this right.

Bethesda has never got anything else right, why start now?

On the contrary. They did get Morrowind right, and they weren't far off with Oblivion.

This shows us that they're pretty good with cRPGs. Fallout lands in the same category. Ergo, they have a good shot at getting it right.

If it turns out anything like Morrowind or Oblivion then Vault Boy will shed radioactive tears.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lexx on June 06, 2007, 11:26:30 pm
Meh, I've given up hope for anything that'll stand up to the awesomeness of Fallout 1 & 2. But I'm sure Beth are quite capable of producing a game that's awesome in its own right.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Jack Lupino on June 07, 2007, 12:06:50 am
I loved the elder scrolls series  :P
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: L'homme magique on June 07, 2007, 01:13:39 am
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This shows us that they're pretty good with cRPGs. Fallout lands in the same category
fallout is nothing like elder scrolls. that's like saying king's field and final fantasy are the same because they're both on the playstation 2.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Gravehill on June 07, 2007, 08:51:14 pm
Interesting to see what will come out. It's going to be long wait. But interesting :D
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: EG Genius on June 10, 2007, 12:16:09 pm
In game probably will be such the schedule, it is necessary to wait only.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Fallout on June 10, 2007, 07:36:41 pm
In game probably will be such the schedule, it is necessary to wait only.

IS NICE !!
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Ant on June 10, 2007, 07:46:52 pm
Dude don't be insensitive  >:(

Well anyway after watching the trailer video a few times i wish for to make sexy time with your sister
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: MDX on June 11, 2007, 04:47:19 pm
It makes a sexy time in mechs pants!
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Jack Lupino on August 14, 2007, 03:10:42 pm
This game's storyline looks a shitload like stalker
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: WereVolvo on August 14, 2007, 05:29:04 pm
This game's storyline looks a shitload like stalker


Um, no it doesn't? Other than "leaving a safe place to find someone". Perhaps you're thinking about the setting? In which case yes, they are a bit alike, because Fallout is set in the future where pretty much the whole world has been nuked to hell.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Jack Lupino on August 14, 2007, 05:38:48 pm
So.. really, whats your opinion now, yes or no make up your mind! :D

Yeah. I meant the setting, the enviroment, the looters..

The storyline not that much.. I like how they thought of the Vaults and stuff, Fallout has a cool story.
But some stuff is kinda weird, i read that you're Vaultboy 101, then your dad leaves or something, you get threathened with jailtime so ..

You leave the vaults to look for your dad ?
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: WereVolvo on August 14, 2007, 06:48:01 pm
Evidently. The game wouldn't be much fun if all you were allowed to do in the game is run around the Vault until you get bored. ;D
edit: yeah, I know what you meant, but I couldn't help myself ;)

But yeah, the similarities are there. Perhaps because they both draw inspiration from post-apocalyptic science fiction, or perhaps the makers of Stalker got inspired by the earlier Fallout games? I have no idea.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: dezo on January 09, 2008, 03:32:14 am
Goddamn this is some major thread rez. You'll like this anyways I hope =P

http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40443 (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40443)

This is prolly just for g33ks like me who claims that gaming was better a few years ago, but still if you haven't tried fallout 2 or if you want to play it again, this is teh l33t mod. Gives you something to do until teh fallout 3 release.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: cherko on January 09, 2008, 03:48:59 am
Fallout is a great game. I liked Morrowind (haven't tried Oblivion due to insane specs... well, insane to me), but I hope Fallout 3 won't turn out anything like it. I guess I just can't stand the thought of it being in 3D, I'm sort of a 2D enthusiast.

Think I'll try this mod when I'm done with Baldur's Gate. Thanks, dezo.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Chronologix on January 09, 2008, 05:38:54 am
I think i only played Tactics....don't know if that has any relevance :/

I didn't mind it...it was a bit hard to understand at first though
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lexx on January 09, 2008, 07:14:01 am
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40443 (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40443)

Aye, that mod looks awesome. Been trying to get it working on my laptop to try it at "work", not much success. Stupid wireless adapter.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: L'homme magique on January 09, 2008, 09:43:41 pm
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I think i only played Tactics....don't know if that has any relevance :/
There's not.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Asor on January 09, 2008, 11:11:38 pm
But yeah, the similarities are there. Perhaps because they both draw inspiration from post-apocalyptic science fiction, or perhaps the makers of Stalker got inspired by the earlier Fallout games? I have no idea.
Or perhaps the makers of Stalker got inspired by the original Stalker book and the movie Stalker that has been made from that book? The book is quite a nice book, one of the first sci-fi books ever :P. And also, both the movie and the book are made in yer good ol' Soviet Union. But yes, the book is quite different from the game, as in the book The Zone(s) is(are) there because of aliens visited Earth and left right after they came. And then they left all kind of weird stuff there and people are trying to find use for the stuffs.

Oh lawd, me wants Fallout 3 :
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: L'homme magique on July 15, 2008, 10:40:57 pm
Gameplay vid. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36197.html?type=

It looks worse than I imagined. The graphics look really mediocre, and do a terrible job at conveying the atmosphere (as I was watching the vid I actually had STALKER running on my other computer, and comparing the two just left me shaking my head sadly). Heck, even Gears of War makes grey crumbly things look interesting. Ridiculous texture pop-in, stuttering, hitches, enemy models that look recycled from Oblivion (orcs and goblins!)... I just hope the PC version won't be plagued with the technical issues (ha).

The AI either stands and gets shot or runs at the player and gets shot. VATS doesn't help, since everything was 1-2shotted you can't see how the system would actually play out (poorly, from what is shown, however). I realize you can turn VATS off, but then it still looks appallingly slow and suffers from the same AI problems. It looks worse than BioShock in that department.

Shooting and death animations are beyond ridiculous. I didn't catch if you can turn them off, but it had better be an option.

Probably the worst part of the trailer is the stupid robot, which he introduces as being one tough mother. He then proceeds to stand there as it shoots at him with -2% to-hit chance, and wastes it. Real tough, yeah.

And in addition to everything else, the inclusion of the Fatman really bugs me. Given the guy's tone when he unveiled it, it's like they put it in specifically to be loledgy (which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest). The fact that he just irradiated himself all to hell and would be blind from looking at the blast is a backseat to that stupid announcer's "lol this is the NUCLEAR BOMB :D :D :D" voice.

I'd rather play Oblivion, tbh.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Asor on July 15, 2008, 11:42:55 pm
Hmmh, my advice would be that dont be so negative, wait until you actually get to play it. Few years back I totally left all the hype reading/preview-video watching cause it made me think too much of the games before actually touching the game.

That said, I think Fallout 3 is looking quite good, as long as you dont think of it as a Fallout game.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Einkoro on July 16, 2008, 12:32:21 am
That said, I think Fallout 3 is looking quite good, as long as you dont think of it as a Fallout game.

But it says /Fallout/ in the name. :(
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: L'homme magique on July 16, 2008, 12:40:35 am
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Hmmh, my advice would be that dont be so negative, wait until you actually get to play it.
I forgot to add inb4waittiluplayitdouchebag to my post, thanks for reminding me.
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That said, I think Fallout 3 is looking quite good, as long as you dont think of it as a Fallout game.
I think it looks like a bad game, say nothing of a Fallout game.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Leissi on July 16, 2008, 01:04:40 am
Bethesda might actually get this right.
stop lying to yourself. being pessimistic only softens the impact of total suckage.

I lost my interest the moment I learned the game "world" will be Washington DC and a small surrounding area.

I fucking hate this.

WHERE IS THE WORLD TO EXPLORE?

WHERE ARE ALL THE RANDOM ENCOUNTERS?

WHERE ARE ALL THE OBLIVION VOICE ACTORS....  oh there they are.

I stopped waiting for this game.

I rest my case.

<Link disconnected.>
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: harvey danger on July 16, 2008, 01:17:17 am
And in addition to everything else, the inclusion of the Fatman really bugs me. Given the guy's tone when he unveiled it, it's like they put it in specifically to be loledgy (which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest). The fact that he just irradiated himself all to hell and would be blind from looking at the blast is a backseat to that stupid announcer's "lol this is the NUCLEAR BOMB :D :D :D" voice.

Welcome to video games! We kindly ask that you check your reality at the door and turn your cell phone off during the presentation.

My only problem with the game is that it looks a little easy, but that video doesn't say where or when in the game it takes place, so I'm counting on the fact that it will be harder than that (and possibly have adjustable difficulty like in Oblivion).

Everything else looks like lots of fun.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Leissi on July 16, 2008, 01:38:26 am
And in addition to everything else, the inclusion of the Fatman really bugs me. Given the guy's tone when he unveiled it, it's like they put it in specifically to be loledgy (which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest). The fact that he just irradiated himself all to hell and would be blind from looking at the blast is a backseat to that stupid announcer's "lol this is the NUCLEAR BOMB :D :D :D" voice.

Welcome to video games! We kindly ask that you check your reality at the door and turn your cell phone off during the presentation.

My only problem with the game is that it looks a little easy, but that video doesn't say where or when in the game it takes place, so I'm counting on the fact that it will be harder than that (and possibly have adjustable difficulty like in Oblivion).

Everything else looks like lots of fun.
yes it does.

2277.
Washington fucking DC.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: harvey danger on July 16, 2008, 01:49:08 am
2277.
Washington fucking DC.

An entire city (ruined as it may be) is quite a lot to explore. Would you have preferred it be Oblivion-style with a whole lot of nothing in between the cities?
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: L'homme magique on July 16, 2008, 07:10:51 am
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(and possibly have adjustable difficulty like in Oblivion).
No. Not like in Oblivion.
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An entire city (ruined as it may be) is quite a lot to explore. Would you have preferred it be Oblivion-style with a whole lot of nothing in between the cities?
I stated this in my original post, there doesn't seem to be any reason to explore at all. It looks like a whole lot of nothing during the city. It looks like a level, not a zone.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: harvey danger on July 16, 2008, 07:16:30 am
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(and possibly have adjustable difficulty like in Oblivion).
No. Not like in Oblivion.
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An entire city (ruined as it may be) is quite a lot to explore. Would you have preferred it be Oblivion-style with a whole lot of nothing in between the cities?
I stated this in my original post, there doesn't seem to be any reason to explore at all. It looks like a whole lot of nothing during the city. It looks like a level, not a zone.

I didn't mean the bandits getting higher-level crap as the player did, if that was what you were referring to. I meant the adjustable difficulty in the pause menu. I never played with it much, but I think it raised enemies' stats, for the most part.

I'm guessing there's 1.) going to be a lot of stuff underground and 2.) a lot more to see other than what they showed (hopefully with more of a sense of direction).

There will be a mini-map, and fast travel, so that should help in aimless wandering.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: PrescriptiveBarony on July 16, 2008, 08:43:24 am
it looks like i could at least stand to play it for more than 15 minutes, which is more than i could say for fallout 1 or 2. i agree that it looks like a not-very-improved oblivion mod, and i don't know if it was wise to show the game in a clearly very-well-equipped, high-statsed position, because it did make it hard to make any good judgments about the combat, which looks interesting. it would have been nice to show us one or two of the landmarks he kept talking about, or like to go inside something, but i guess all that will forthcome and until then it's not like we're about to preorder the collector's edition anyway.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: L'homme magique on July 16, 2008, 09:11:11 am
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I meant the adjustable difficulty in the pause menu. I never played with it much, but I think it raised enemies' stats, for the most part.
I got you; my bad ~tima
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Asor on July 16, 2008, 05:34:29 pm
What I am seeing from the videos, the guy isn't loosing any health, so it is my guess that the version he is playing is a version with some sort of godmode on. Think I should recheck that, if I can get arsed. But anyways, overall it doesnt look all THAT bad, expect the goddamn nuke thrower. Thinking that the whole world has been destroyed by nukes, the people would not feel all too good about using nukes as infantry weapons. But I guess that is just the whole vidya game aspect of it.

Anyways, like I said, im not really waiting for any game to arrive, I rather be surprised when the game arrives and I get to try it, read some reviews and whatnot.

Gräääergh
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Gravehill on July 16, 2008, 09:47:13 pm
Who knows what the final version will be... Combination of hit percentages and freemode shooting + nade tossing seems rather peculiar. I was pretty worried - did that guy demonstrate it with pad-controller? No wonder the moving seemed so cubic. What becomes to graphics... Well, I think that graphics are not that important if immersiviness of game is deep enough. And most games don't look too good on my Ancient PC anyway. Besides they will most likely polish graphics soooo much before releasing.

Sigh... Probably my rig won't even run it so I'm not that optimistic about playing it soon after it release.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Leissi on July 17, 2008, 12:23:09 am
Who knows what the final version will be... Combination of hit percentages and freemode shooting + nade tossing seems rather peculiar. I was pretty worried - did that guy demonstrate it with pad-controller? No wonder the moving seemed so cubic. What becomes to graphics... Well, I think that graphics are not that important if immersiviness of game is deep enough. And most games don't look too good on my Ancient PC anyway. Besides they will most likely polish graphics soooo much before releasing.

Sigh... Probably my rig won't even run it so I'm not that optimistic about playing it soon after it release.
Nowadays graphics seem to take place over immersive gameplay :(

BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN I WAS YOUNG...
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Einkoro on July 17, 2008, 11:39:53 pm
BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN I WAS YOUNG...

...We walked up hill in the snow, both ways, for our immersion.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Leissi on July 18, 2008, 01:43:55 am
BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN I WAS YOUNG...

...We walked up hill in the snow, both ways, for our immersion.
fuck hills, THEY WERE GODDAMN PREHISTORIC MOUNTAINS
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lexx on July 18, 2008, 02:15:46 am
But you had a Highwayman to get over them.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: MMM_Donola on July 19, 2008, 12:11:10 am
Bring back 'real PC gaming' already, things seem to be getting more console-ish by the moment (although i feel some games originally on console are far better on PC)

Failing that, make me a full length Deus Ex 1 mod!
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Leissi on July 19, 2008, 01:00:54 am
Bring back 'real PC gaming' already, things seem to be getting more console-ish by the moment (although i feel some games originally on console are far better on PC)

Failing that, make me a full length Deus Ex 1 mod!

word.

the whole post actually, but that especially.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: L'homme magique on July 22, 2008, 01:31:41 am
Deus Ex Nameless Mod is shaping up to be really awesome.

I mean, it had better, after like 8 years of development.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: MMM_Donola on July 23, 2008, 03:09:39 am
Holy crap its still alive!?  :o

The mod that was gonna be longer then the damn game!?

Hows it coming along? I havent checked for...well...years...
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: WereVolvo on September 02, 2008, 12:20:37 pm
So, 5 new gameplay videos released recently (http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/downloads/videos.html).

I don't care if it might not be 100% true to the Fallout series, I don't care about concerns that it might be a combat-oriented game because as long as you can PICK-POCKET PEOPLE AND PLACE LIVE GRENADES IN THEIR INVENTORY, I'M GONNA FUCKING LOVE THAT GAME! Also, BLOWING UP AN ENTIRE TOWN WITH AN ATOMIC BOMB? FUCK YEAH! And then there's what looks to be an interesting hacking and lockpicking system to boot.

*ahem*

Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: harvey danger on September 02, 2008, 04:17:05 pm
So, 5 new gameplay videos released recently (http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/downloads/videos.html).

I don't care if it might not be 100% true to the Fallout series, I don't care about concerns that it might be a combat-oriented game because as long as you can PICK-POCKET PEOPLE AND PLACE LIVE GRENADES IN THEIR INVENTORY, I'M GONNA FUCKING LOVE THAT GAME! Also, BLOWING UP AN ENTIRE TOWN WITH AN ATOMIC BOMB? FUCK YEAH! And then there's what looks to be an interesting hacking and lockpicking system to boot.

*ahem*



Don't forget the railroad spike gun!
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Gravehill on September 02, 2008, 09:47:21 pm
Hahaa... Fallout has never been so much fun!
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: yas‮ on October 15, 2008, 05:33:39 pm
Playing it now. It simply rocks. The atmosphere is just fscking awesome, the rest just keeps it that way.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Gravehill on October 15, 2008, 05:50:55 pm
Playing it now. It simply rocks. The atmosphere is just fscking awesome, the rest just keeps it that way.
I do so envy you. My system might run it and I will definitely buy it at some point... If my system won't run it I will show it some axe, some tricks, some new parts and make it run it.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Einkoro on October 16, 2008, 06:50:47 am
Not sounding good from the first 'review' nor friends who downloaded it already:
http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=45725

I'm leaning on pass unless magicman can say something positive after giving it a go.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: WereVolvo on October 16, 2008, 12:49:24 pm
Meh, I'll form my own opinion of it after I've tried it out, thankyouverymuch.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lysix on October 16, 2008, 02:45:04 pm
Meh, I'll form my own opinion of it after I've tried it out, thankyouverymuch.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: harvey danger on October 16, 2008, 09:36:11 pm
Meh, I'll form my own opinion of it after I've tried it out, thankyouverymuch.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Bocom on October 17, 2008, 12:50:28 am
Meh, I'll form my own opinion of it after I've tried it out, thankyouverymuch.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: yas‮ on October 17, 2008, 01:00:22 am
Well, it certainly is more shooting than role playing. It ain't old fallouts, it's kinda action-adventure thingy now. Let me put it that way - it's post-apocalyptic Oblivion with guns. And mutants. And other fallouty thingies.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: evilcandybag on October 17, 2008, 02:11:36 am
Let me put it that way - it's post-apocalyptic Oblivion with guns.
Well, fuck that shit.
Why can't they make proper RPGs anymore? Only Bioware seem to do that nowadays, and they too are slowly creeping toward the "less story yumminess, more guns/swords" side.

Poo.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lysix on October 17, 2008, 02:57:00 am
Well, fuck that shit.
Why can't they make proper RPGs anymore? Only Bioware seem to do that nowadays, and they too are slowly creeping toward the "less story yumminess, more guns/swords" side.

Poo.

There's no market for them anymore.
Companies go where the money is and unfortunately, since the dawn of "casual gaming" (like the wii etc), it's not in bigass RPGs.
Shame, really, Final Fantasy used to be pretty decent!
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Gravehill on October 17, 2008, 03:47:17 am
Only problem in game industry is that there are way too big teams doing those games. And most of those guys are honing the graphics and sounds... Large teams makes producing games very expensive and thus, in order to make some big cash, game companies try to sell their expensive games to as many gamers as possible. Cut the high end graphics and sound bit and add more into the story, gameworld design, control design and replayability and see the quality rise while costs decreases. While doing product like that it's not likely that most people want to buy that game since it will look uglyish but then again those who would buy it would love it and thus make loyal and exploitable fanbase. Also such games with medium- to low-end graphics are lighter and thus might lure in some gamers with older and weaker rig which would not run most of the modern games. According to researches most computers in world are of that out-of-date-group.

For example projects like UnRealWorld and Mount&Blade are living examples what a low-profile task team is cabaple of doing. I've bought them both and I will buy them for a second time as a gift for my brother. They have brilliant solutions and lots of innovation and enough of those carrots and hooks that keeps me getting back to those games.

I will try Fallout 3 definitely at some point. I've hunch that I will like it.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Einkoro on October 17, 2008, 05:34:43 am
Well, fuck that shit.
Why can't they make proper RPGs anymore? Only Bioware seem to do that nowadays, and they too are slowly creeping toward the "less story yumminess, more guns/swords" side.

Poo.

There's no market for them anymore.
Companies go where the money is and unfortunately, since the dawn of "casual gaming" (like the wii etc), it's not in bigass RPGs.
Shame, really, Final Fantasy used to be pretty decent!

We still have Dragon Age to look forward to.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Irrationalist on October 21, 2008, 03:40:30 am
Well, fuck that shit.
Why can't they make proper RPGs anymore? Only Bioware seem to do that nowadays, and they too are slowly creeping toward the "less story yumminess, more guns/swords" side.

Poo.

There's no market for them anymore.
Companies go where the money is and unfortunately, since the dawn of "casual gaming" (like the wii etc), it's not in bigass RPGs.
Shame, really, Final Fantasy used to be pretty decent!

Casual gamin is ass.

By trying to reach the "untapped masses" they are fucking over hardcore gamers. A trend thats fairly noticeable. I remember when HARD used to mean hard...
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lysix on October 21, 2008, 03:45:53 am
I remember when HARD used to mean hard...

You guys really just beg for me to take things like this out of context all the time!
And i agree. But it's what earns them money, right?
MORE MONEY MORE MONEY WOO MORE MONEY EASIER GAMES WOO MORE MONEY
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: megadokyo on October 21, 2008, 09:54:13 am
Alex De FacePalm is right.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lysix on October 21, 2008, 03:27:40 pm
Alex De FacePalm is right.

Thank you, Chris greenham.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: megadokyo on October 27, 2008, 02:01:01 pm
lol ;D

So anybody got it? played it? loved it? Hated it?

Beans yo, spill some.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Irrationalist on October 31, 2008, 05:25:53 pm
Well I bought and... now I can think about day and night is playing it. Its like Oblivion with guns and without all of the flaws of Oblivion ; D, also its like KOTOR ran the fuck into Oblivion running 30 miles an hour while hold out scissors. You will see alot of KOTOR influence. The combat is fun, the atmosphere in unique and invites exploration, the different "caves" all look different rather than the mass oblivion cave style, the choices between good and evil have an honest impact, the guns are fun etc... I can go on forever.

Well I'd say more but onto Calculus 2!


Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: harvey danger on October 31, 2008, 06:17:19 pm
Arrived at the mail office today, I just need to go pick it up and then enjoy. ;D
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: dezo on October 31, 2008, 07:44:59 pm
Just a tip if you're having problems with (PC) starting and running the game stable:

If you have atleast 2x2.0 cpu you can run the scinematics without problems ifm you choose to run the game without video codex (ffdshow)
If the game doesn't start, use windowed mode with low-rez and choose either "no ffdshow" and check "always use this setting" or update ffdshow to the latest build and check "use ffdshow" and "always use this setting". ...this is just a PC issue and you only get this problem if you have some kinda video equipment like webcam or such that uses ffdshow as video codec.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: L'homme magique on November 02, 2008, 04:22:54 am
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I'm leaning on pass unless magicman can say something positive after giving it a go.
it's what everyone expected it would be

i'd pass
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: harvey danger on November 02, 2008, 06:38:21 am
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I'm leaning on pass unless magicman can say something positive after giving it a go.
it's what everyone expected it would be

i'd pass

You'll be missing out...
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Einkoro on November 03, 2008, 12:06:01 am
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I'm leaning on pass unless magicman can say something positive after giving it a go.
it's what everyone expected it would be

i'd pass

You'll be missing out...

OMG FALLOUT 3 DOESN'T HAVE THE .223 PISTOL FROM BLADE RUNNAH
THIS GAME GETS A 0/10 FROM ME

Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lysix on November 09, 2008, 10:05:38 pm
I've got it, but i feel buying it for the 360 was a bad move. I've never really been good at FPS games on consoles, and aiming on fallout is no exception. It's quite obviously framecapped too to prevent any inconsistency in the framerate.
Ahwell, i'm sure i can adjust to it. Not really planning to return it for the PC version anyway as the game store won't provide exchanges if the game seal is broken!
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: megadokyo on November 09, 2008, 11:05:46 pm
Is it 100% FPS or is there 3rd person mode optional? Or does it switch throughout the story, which is preferable?
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lysix on November 09, 2008, 11:11:51 pm
You can switch between the two at any time. [:
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: megadokyo on November 09, 2008, 11:16:09 pm
Huzzah!
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Irrationalist on November 14, 2008, 05:31:45 am
So I've done my first playthough on Hard and am almost done on Very Hard (my exploration file). The game doesn't seem nearly as massive as Oblivion did but atleast each "cave" has its own charm or backstory that make it worth looking through. I feel this game was rather well done and loved both VATS and the first person aiming. I did feel that VATS doing more damage automatically was stupid but not enough to warrant me hating it. I think where the game was rather weak was around the storyline. I mean the scene and setting were great fun and somehow the charm was lost on the story. It all ends up with a lackluster ending as well regardless of which one you get.

Gets a 9.8/10 from me.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Einkoro on November 14, 2008, 07:54:17 am
For those heart broken over not being able to kill children like 1 and 2, we can now: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=376
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Irrationalist on November 14, 2008, 08:34:28 am
For those heart broken over not being able to kill children like 1 and 2, we can now: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=376

Meh is it really that big of a deal to anyone?

Something Caranfin pointed out that was missing was the "dumb run" dialogue. Now that I would have loved.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Einkoro on November 14, 2008, 10:47:20 am
For those heart broken over not being able to kill children like 1 and 2, we can now: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=376

Meh is it really that big of a deal to anyone?

Something Caranfin pointed out that was missing was the "dumb run" dialogue. Now that I would have loved.

It is to magicman and I. I remember the first time I got the child killer status. The hit on the priestess in the church in the hub. Morons ran out in the middle of a fire fight and naturally Ian hit one of them, before hitting me in the back with the blasted smg, and I accidently hit the other with the wonderful .223 (why-o-why is it not in fallout3*cry*). I rather enjoy having consequences for a botched hit. In fallout 2 the little bastards in the den stealing from me totally had it coming; so did everyone in the town who went hostile and defended them. Nothing more enjoyable than taking out a town with aimed punches to the groin.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Smeagol on November 15, 2008, 11:27:03 pm
Wait, Fallout 3 has no child-killing, no .223, and is 'Oblivion meets Kotor'? Urgh, that sounds like one of the worst rapes of a series ever. Being able to plant live dynamite on thieving bastard children was what MADE Fallout 2.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Irrationalist on November 16, 2008, 10:33:18 pm
Never played the other two, and love this game. So if the series was raped for my pleasure so be it.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: megadokyo on November 16, 2008, 10:41:06 pm
If you buy a game and slate it on the count of not being able to kill the kids in the game, you may want to seek sound mental advice from a professional, sane.. person.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Deep on November 17, 2008, 02:33:02 am
Mediocre game. Fun concept, but ruined by a lot of factors. The main storyline is very poor (not long enough, not deep enough) and the ending is rather dull.

The side quests are interesting but there's rarely an incentive to make you want to go out and explore and stumble across new places, and the side quests don't actually add to the storyline, they are just a means to an end (rewards, caps, guns etc). By the time I got to level 20 and got the Explorer perk, when I realised how many places there were to explore it was a little overwhelming (and I'd already completed the game and re-loaded my save game at this point) so I've kinda half-given up on it.

I wish it played more like STALKER. Customisable guns and the like. They had the mechanics there - the Repair function may as well have been changed to a "combine items" function. The equipment/inventory was badly implemented. You can only have a helmet and armour equipped, and there really were very little choices in what you can wear. You found yourself wearing one armour set through the first half of the game(armoured vault 101 suit or Metal Armour), then another armour set through the last half (Tesla armour obviously).

There's rarely a use for half of the guns (I found myself using A3-21's Plasma Rifle throughout the entire game, even to kill radroaches), although by habit I was a walking armoury, with all 8 weapon slots filled (and then some). Never did get a chance to really use the .44 magnum, or the sniper rifle, or the fatman, minigun, missile launcher, the list goes on..

A lot of the perks were a bit.. redundant (case in point Contract Killer/Lawbringer perk - by the time you get these (kill good/bad person for ear/finger, sell to certain person for caps), you already have enough caps to buy whatever you need anyway). I found myself mainly concentrating on the Intense Training perk and maxing out my SPECIAL's so I had lots of health and weight to carry junk.

As with Oblivion, wasn't impressed that the enemies level up with you. It really kills the fun of killing an enemy much much stronger than you through skill, to steal their superior armour/weapon. If the enemies level up with you, all you're get from their corpses is usually exactly what you're wearing anyway.

I would do a bit of a section on the good points of the game, but there aren't many.. I suppose it is enjoyable to play for a while, but I found myself playing it just for the sake of playing, and to advance the storyline more. When you realise how short the main storyline is, it spoils it a bit and puts you off playing it anymore.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: harvey danger on November 17, 2008, 05:00:01 am
Mediocre game. Fun concept, but ruined by a lot of factors. The main storyline is very poor (not long enough, not deep enough) and the ending is rather dull.

The side quests are interesting but there's rarely an incentive to make you want to go out and explore and stumble across new places, and the side quests don't actually add to the storyline, they are just a means to an end (rewards, caps, guns etc). By the time I got to level 20 and got the Explorer perk, when I realised how many places there were to explore it was a little overwhelming (and I'd already completed the game and re-loaded my save game at this point) so I've kinda half-given up on it.

I wish it played more like STALKER. Customisable guns and the like. They had the mechanics there - the Repair function may as well have been changed to a "combine items" function. The equipment/inventory was badly implemented. You can only have a helmet and armour equipped, and there really were very little choices in what you can wear. You found yourself wearing one armour set through the first half of the game(armoured vault 101 suit or Metal Armour), then another armour set through the last half (Tesla armour obviously).

There's rarely a use for half of the guns (I found myself using A3-21's Plasma Rifle throughout the entire game, even to kill radroaches), although by habit I was a walking armoury, with all 8 weapon slots filled (and then some). Never did get a chance to really use the .44 magnum, or the sniper rifle, or the fatman, minigun, missile launcher, the list goes on..

A lot of the perks were a bit.. redundant (case in point Contract Killer/Lawbringer perk - by the time you get these (kill good/bad person for ear/finger, sell to certain person for caps), you already have enough caps to buy whatever you need anyway). I found myself mainly concentrating on the Intense Training perk and maxing out my SPECIAL's so I had lots of health and weight to carry junk.

As with Oblivion, wasn't impressed that the enemies level up with you. It really kills the fun of killing an enemy much much stronger than you through skill, to steal their superior armour/weapon. If the enemies level up with you, all you're get from their corpses is usually exactly what you're wearing anyway.

I would do a bit of a section on the good points of the game, but there aren't many.. I suppose it is enjoyable to play for a while, but I found myself playing it just for the sake of playing, and to advance the storyline more. When you realise how short the main storyline is, it spoils it a bit and puts you off playing it anymore.

I don't need any motivation to explore outside of my own curiosity. I dunno, whenever I play the game I always get really immersed and feel like I'm trapped in the wastes, and that plays into my wanting to scrounge for whatever I can.

As for not using the other guns or finding those explorable locations, that's what multiple playthroughs are for! I fully intend on going through again as an evil character and specializing in big guns and explosives instead of small guns and stealth.

I also don't find myself wearing one set of armor through the game. I change all the time, especially since I can't find anything to repair my armored 101 suit with. :P

I haven't noticed the enemies leveling up with me - I'm level 15 and going to fix the broadcast signal for GNR, and raiders are much easier to kill than they were before. I do see them with slightly upgraded equipment on occasion (mostly in terms of big guns), but I haven't seen laser or plasma weapons or anything like that, and I even still see the occasional sawed-off shotgun and Chinese or .32 pistol.

Oh well. That's what games like this are made for, I suppose. :)
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Irrationalist on November 17, 2008, 11:41:18 am
I agree that the story as a whole was anticlimatic and nothing I really found super special.

Personally I MADE TIME to use every weapon... except the .32 pistol. ; D

My first playthrough was to do most of the quick quests and the story line and I found it quite easy to start exploring the entire map and every cave on my 2nd playthrough. I find myself also getting lost into the game and finding myself playing it over Gearsing sometimes.

The perk system I think was a good idea but poorly implemented. Some perks woulda been cool to have early, some may have been okay to have later. Some perks were stupid (mysterious stranger please) and some were unimaginitive (exp bonus, and more attributes x.x) but as a whole it did flavor up the experience.

One thing I find at fault, which may be partially due to me playing very hard all the time is that I get to level 20 far too fast. Its not as rewarding to cap kids if you dont get anything but caps for it, or for that matter hacking terminals.

I think the leveling if you want to  call it that is far better implemented in F3 than in ES4. I see Radroaches and Deathclaws level 1, and still see both at level 20. Raiders as pointed out by dear Harvey still carry the same weapons and get easier to kill as well.

I do find fault with the lack of choices in the game. I find not being able to have an alternative source of power armor training gravely dissapointing. I get the T1b power armor and cant wear it till the end? That, I'm sorry, is fucking stupid.

Overall I think this is one of the best games of the year ; p
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Deep on November 17, 2008, 03:17:07 pm
I see Radroaches and Deathclaws level 1, and still see both at level 20. Raiders as pointed out by dear Harvey still carry the same weapons and get easier to kill as well.

I agree on the raiders, but they do tend to carry bigger guns as the game progresses. A lot of the time they're carrying Assault Rifles, but are still very easy to kill due to the fact that I have the best Plasma Rifle in the game with a near infinite ammo supply due to my near infinite supply of caps.

But with the Deathclaws, I never saw any at the start of the game. I found that as I progressed I started seeing tougher creatures and robots. At the start I only encountered only Protectrons, now I encounter Security Drones, Robobrains and Mr Gutsy's. With the creatures, I only started encountering Death Claws at lvl 15+, Yao Guai's at about lvl 13+, etc etc.

This may have something to do with the way I played it, exploring outwards from Megaton bit by bit, and I never really strayed too far away from it til about lvl 13~


Anyway, this (http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2994) reminds me of Liberty Prime. :D
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Irrationalist on November 17, 2008, 06:29:32 pm
Go due west at the start of the game and around Girdershade you will find a campgrounds with a deathclaw protecting a schematic for the deathclaw gauntlet. I did this at level 2
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Deep on November 17, 2008, 07:32:55 pm
Heh. The word of Machinae is spreading. Play the video and listen to the music :D

http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=452

In other news, if you wanna play all the side quests and ignore the main storyline but still want to use power armour, try this cheat code:

Enter this into the console:
"setpccanusepowerarmor 1"
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Jack Lupino on November 19, 2008, 02:13:36 am
Just watched the game for 3 hours, its pretty cool, soooo much shit to do there
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: megadokyo on November 20, 2008, 08:28:25 pm
Bought it, have 15 quid to do me for the next 3 weeks, that's not gonna work..


Shouldn't have bought it, basically. But yes, installing so yay.
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: megadokyo on November 27, 2008, 11:34:43 am
Not really digging it, don't know why but i think i'm gonna trade in for Left for DEAD ZOMBIES MARAWGHGH
Title: Re: Fallout 3!
Post by: Lysix on November 27, 2008, 04:18:59 pm
I went to trade it in, but game offer peanuts for it.
£15? HARRRR, I'd rather ebay it
But i won't. I'll just keep it!
Got a replacement controller from the fuckers though/