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Title: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on June 14, 2006, 04:37:17 pm
I really hope there are a lot more Tool fans on this Forum, because this is absolutely outstanding.
and I don't just mean the album on its own

Has the thought that "Viginity Tres is a useless track" pass through anyone's head?
yeah, mine too... but now it means everything.

Wings for Mary PT 1 is a 6:11 length song.
Viginity Tres is a 5:02 length song
10,000 days (wings pt 2) is a 11:13 length song.

see it?

this is a must do.
a must.
open 2 media players.
enqueue viginity tres first and Wings for Mary pt 1 second in your first media player
enqueue 10,000 days (wings pt 2) in your second media player.
I used Winamp and Windows Media player, then put winamp right next to the media player play button and hit play on both as fast as I could.
if you can't get it pefectly synched the effect is still AMAZING so, don't worry.
you could even try timing it using pause if you want... whatever you want, just don't worry too much about perfect synch.
my best try was about a 1/2 second off.

anyway, do it... the effect is amazing, bone chilling even and the meaning of the songs becomes infinitely deeper.

I was shaking for about an hour after doing it... but my nerves kind of suck.

and for god sakes listen to the lyrics people.



Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: SomethingApt on June 14, 2006, 05:16:12 pm
yeah there was a massive fuss about that when the album came out. it was quite cool, sounded a bit messy though, personally i prefer them seperate. hardly anything life changing, contrary to what all the tool fanboys would have you believe :P ;D

oh yeah, and it DOESNT EXUSE ALL THE GODDAMN FILLER ON THE ALBUM. seriously, i'm all for dramatic buildups and whatnot, but i'd have thought that after 5 years they could come up with a tiny bit more material. meh. i still <3 tool :P ;D
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 14, 2006, 05:56:45 pm
Being a huge tool fan i think every song is just as amazing as all the others
especially Vicarious, quite a good name for the song i feel as it does strike a chord ( look up the difinition if you don't know what it means)
also his singing on The Pot is truly amazing, I'm going to try that suggest of wings and 10,000 days

10,000 days in't their best album, it's a toss up between AEnema and Laturalus

Also if you want the mto play at same time try using Goldwave

EDIT: Viginti Tres seems pointless on it's own, but so does Lost Keys, i feel it will be the first part to the introduction to the next album
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on June 14, 2006, 06:28:27 pm
have you heard about "the Holy gift" on Lateralus, Caduceus?

look it up if not, it's pretty genius.

Quote
oh yeah, and it DOESNT EXUSE ALL THE GODDAMN FILLER ON THE ALBUM.

filler?
they chose to put it there, they weren't just trying to fill.
After reading about "the holy gift" and seeing the time they put into making Wings for Mary and viginity Tres meld together, I doubt they just throw in filler...
I personaly think 10,000 days is their best, and possibly the favourite album I own.
yes, even above Redeemer *gasp*
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: SomethingApt on June 14, 2006, 07:20:59 pm
i read about the holy gift, and i actually went through the effort of editing the songs in audacity to make them flow better (as recommended in the guide). my final opinion is that yeah... the songs do fit well in a rearranged order, but this is after editing the intros and outros slightly, so it really doesn't seem like it was intentional. seriously, if you look for something hard enough you'll find it, even if it isn't there.

10,000 days is, in my opinion, a great album. and i absolutely love wings 1 & 2, but i still never understood why many people think of tool as the best band ever. a LOT of their material sounds samey, and while there are some brilliant tracks, there's also a lot of tracks which i feel the necessity to skip.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 14, 2006, 07:23:29 pm
I also forgot to add, Rosetta Stoned is possibly THE best song, just because he is using an ancient Inca (sp?) techinque where he is singing two notes at once throughout the song :)
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on June 14, 2006, 08:32:37 pm
I also forgot to add, Rosetta Stoned is possibly THE best song, just because he is using an ancient Inca (sp?) techinque where he is singing two notes at once throughout the song :)

the band is impresive, to say the most.
they have skill.
and then holy gift -might- not really exist, but then there's the entire fibucini (spelled it wrong, I know) sequence in the drums and in the vocals of Lateralus that showed him the order to put the songs in, so I think there is -something- about it.

oh, and whatever you do, never look up the lyrics to Rosetta stoned if you haven't already.. you're better off not understanding what he's saying.
it's not disturbing or anything... it's just not the best lyrics... not good at all.
just stick with what you hear.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: L'homme magique on June 14, 2006, 09:04:42 pm
gee its like kid 17 which is a poor zaireeka
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: not12x on June 14, 2006, 09:10:29 pm
Tool is a tool.

OMFGPUN amirite?

nah, in all seriousness, i dont have a problem with them, i just can't stand listening to them.

They do have musical talent, i will admit.  But so does Big n' Rich.  that doesnt mean i've gotta love them.



why am i defending myself prematurely?
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: MDX on June 14, 2006, 11:41:35 pm
I dont knwo what youre trying to explain here but i cant do it, but tool rock all the same.

my computer will not play 3 songs at the same time.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 15, 2006, 12:09:28 am
Because 'Never Ever Ever One To Ex' if you didn't i would have smiteth you for tainting Tool !!!
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Jack Lupino on June 15, 2006, 01:02:05 am
Tool is awesome !

I love the song Sober..
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: slippy0 on June 15, 2006, 03:19:22 am
(http://www.hooverfence.com/garden-supplies/img/shovel-as19d.jpg)

tool
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: SpeedD on June 15, 2006, 03:33:07 am
Tool? moar leik TOOLS! amirite?!
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: not12x on June 15, 2006, 05:20:39 am
Tool? moar leik TOOLS! amirite?!

already made an equivelant joke earleir in the thread.  -1.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: MDX on June 15, 2006, 11:22:17 am
Speed, you dare downsized Tool? YOU DARE!?!?

I have trained in special shoes for years to kick your ass specifically, for that comment, :P yes i saw it comin, was just a matter of years. before we met etc.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 15, 2006, 11:33:23 am
Tool? more like fucking awesome band

amirite?

Just back on the sober comment... it rocks for moshing :D
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: SpeedD on June 15, 2006, 02:00:39 pm
Speed, you dare downsized Tool? YOU DARE!?!?

Did you forget already? I'M CANADIAN.

I'm exempt from all forms of punishment for my comments. By law.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: not12x on June 15, 2006, 02:03:00 pm
By law.

damn.  nobody has ever passed special legistlation for me!
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Smeagol on June 15, 2006, 02:05:34 pm
I'm exempt from all forms of punishment for my comments. By law.

Don't make me spam 'Soviet-Fiindil.jpg' in your general direction.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: SpeedD on June 15, 2006, 02:07:37 pm
I'm exempt from all forms of punishment for my comments. By law.

Don't make me spam 'Soviet-Fiindil.jpg' in your general direction.

What would that accomplish? I'm not scared of you, or your photoshopped face.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on June 15, 2006, 04:40:18 pm
Tool? more like fucking awesome band

amirite?

Just back on the sober comment... it rocks for moshing :D

MOSHING.... grr!

I find it difficult to enjoy music with elbows in my face and ears

learn to rock out in a civilized manner, damnit.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Lexx on June 15, 2006, 05:03:52 pm
I didn't like 10,000 Days. There I said it.

Vicarious is a fucking awesome song, I quite like Right In Two too. 10,000 Days (Wings Part 2) was pretty good too. But the rest just felt like listening to (-) Ions for an hour.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: PrescriptiveBarony on June 15, 2006, 09:44:33 pm
By law.

damn.  nobody has ever passed special legistlation for me!

Uh, 19th amendment?!?!

You vagina people get all sorts of special rules.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: MDX on June 15, 2006, 10:56:43 pm
ill put the law on the end of my boot and have you walking like john wayne for a week my canadian compadre :P the laws my ass wipe, especially canadian law. Downsizing tool is unacceptable!
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Jack Lupino on June 15, 2006, 11:24:55 pm
Incomprehensively, i am therefore commited as a substitute to FUCK YOU UP
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 15, 2006, 11:45:47 pm
Tool? more like fucking awesome band

amirite?

Just back on the sober comment... it rocks for moshing :D

MOSHING.... grr!

I find it difficult to enjoy music with elbows in my face and ears

learn to rock out in a civilized manner, damnit.

If i ever want to mosh i'll go to the pit, or make a circle for it, i know how much of a shit it can be if it's just on the floor randomly :(
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Jack Lupino on June 15, 2006, 11:46:47 pm
When i mosh, its mostly me in the middle and some emo pogo people.

thats where my friends come in and mosh me over =[
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on June 16, 2006, 12:04:44 am
Tool? more like fucking awesome band

amirite?

Just back on the sober comment... it rocks for moshing :D

MOSHING.... grr!

I find it difficult to enjoy music with elbows in my face and ears

learn to rock out in a civilized manner, damnit.

If i ever want to mosh i'll go to the pit, or make a circle for it, i know how much of a shit it can be if it's just on the floor randomly :(

yes, thank you!
I had to hold a  drunk girl still because she whispered into my ear once "I want to start a mosh pit, help me!"
and I was all "this is a hippy band... the guy has bell-bottoms"
she then proceeded to thrash about while giggling incessantly, so I stood behind her and held onto her arms.
she was a squirmy one  :-X
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Jack Lupino on June 16, 2006, 12:11:26 am
Tool? more like fucking awesome band

amirite?

Just back on the sober comment... it rocks for moshing :D

MOSHING.... grr!

I find it difficult to enjoy music with elbows in my face and ears

learn to rock out in a civilized manner, damnit.

If i ever want to mosh i'll go to the pit, or make a circle for it, i know how much of a shit it can be if it's just on the floor randomly :(

yes, thank you!
I had to hold a  drunk girl still because she whispered into my ear once "I want to start a mosh pit, help me!"
and I was all "this is a hippy band... the guy has bell-bottoms"
she then proceeded to thrash about while giggling incessantly, so I stood behind her and held onto her arms.
she was a squirmy one  :-X

I knew you kidnapped her
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: slippy0 on June 16, 2006, 01:02:16 am
the few concerts i go to, the bands can only be measured by how loud their music is, and how large the mosh pit is.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 16, 2006, 01:21:52 am
To elaborate on random moshing, pipelines become very common if this occurs, got stuck in one at Earl's Court while watching Muse last year, everything sounds like it would under water and my leg came very close to breaking, fucking retards who spent about 10 mins attempting to clear a way for us to get up, if it was me on the edge i would just be like GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE I POKE YOU IN THE EYES AND EARS!
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on June 16, 2006, 02:42:33 am
To elaborate on random moshing, pipelines become very common if this occurs, got stuck in one at Earl's Court while watching Muse last year, everything sounds like it would under water and my leg came very close to breaking, fucking retards who spent about 10 mins attempting to clear a way for us to get up, if it was me on the edge i would just be like GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE I POKE YOU IN THE EYES AND EARS!

pipeline?
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 16, 2006, 02:50:29 am
Basically when a load of people just fucking fall over because twats are jumping around like retards and then people who manage to stay up push people back to form a 'pipeline' so as everyone can get up
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Jack Lupino on June 16, 2006, 03:42:51 am
Basically when a load of people just fucking fall over because twats are jumping around like retards and then people who manage to stay up push people back to form a 'pipeline' so as everyone can get up
They are just all pussies.

Either you mosh, or you don't.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Drakonis on June 17, 2006, 04:19:50 am
To go back on topic here...

There is more to this puzzle. We just spent a hefty amount of time screwing with these tracks.

A few things to note:

Start with Wings + 10,000 days, not Viginity. Notice the chimes, they sync PERFECTLY (almost poetically) with the intro to 10,000 days. If you look at the tracks in an audio editor, you can actually see if you do it your way the two heavy guitar riffs at the end of the combined tracks ALMOST sync perfectly, but do not. We synced these, the result is quite neat when we did it with your order. The vocals at the end also come out unique, since they echo if you sync the guitar tracks, because hes saying the same thing. However, the result of playing them in the different order is clearly the intended intro.

Im beginning to think you would need to do some considerably moving around parts to get this to sync properly, because theres odd pauses throughout and a few parts that sound flat out wrong either way you do it, but if you switch those parts, they come out AMAZINGLY in sync.

we will keep fooling around and try to figure it out, but theres more to it than that simply because if you do it the way you listed, the guitar riffs at the end completely rape each other and the result is horrific. Sync them, and its amazing, but that requires a little much on the editing side. (And by the way, if you reverse the tracks like I said before, the heavy guitar riff actually comes in right when his vocals get louder and more intense. Its quite amazing, actually and that may be the intended order).

Either way, fricken +1 for the find and the share. I am entertained.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on June 17, 2006, 05:47:52 am
i'm going to have to try the different order.
if you find anything else about it let me know!
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Drakonis on June 17, 2006, 06:26:01 pm
It's a challenging task. It seems like the other order works very, very well at the intro (and in a few other parts). At other times, it just seems off.

But the same with the other way. Such a challenge :)

I found a few interesting things about the album though. 10,000 days is apparently almost exactly how long his mother (Judith, Mary was her middle name) lived between her stroke and her death. He was 11 when she had her stroke that paralyzed her (hince, you can see numerous numerical references to 11 in the artwork among other things, like the song durations which were apparently intentional. Even the length of the central track, Rosetta Stone, is 11:11. And it is supposed to hold clues to many of the albums mysteries. Which makes sense, since a Rosetta Stone was an artifact used to stranscribe ancient egyption hyroglyphics). That would also explain "10,000 days in the fire is long enough, I'm coming home". 10,000 days of paralysis is long enough.

Also, the pictures are supposed to hold clues. All I noticed are: Most of the pictures the band members point to something references 11. 11 candles, the clock is 11, whatever it might be. I also noticed the obvious: Two pictures, create a whole image. Same with the face on the cover, two faces make a whole new face. Two songs, whole new track.

=P

Oh by the way, before someone says "Wow, you're reading way too deep into this": Keenan already said there were tons of puzzles intentionally placed inside the album. It was all based around puzzles and mystery intentionally, which is honestly half the fun =).
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 17, 2006, 07:34:28 pm
It's a challenging task. It seems like the other order works very, very well at the intro (and in a few other parts). At other times, it just seems off.

But the same with the other way. Such a challenge :)

I found a few interesting things about the album though. 10,000 days is apparently almost exactly how long his mother (Judith, Mary was her middle name) lived between her stroke and her death. He was 11 when she had her stroke that paralyzed her (hince, you can see numerous numerical references to 11 in the artwork among other things, like the song durations which were apparently intentional. Even the length of the central track, Rosetta Stone, is 11:11. And it is supposed to hold clues to many of the albums mysteries. Which makes sense, since a Rosetta Stone was an artifact used to stranscribe ancient egyption hyroglyphics). That would also explain "10,000 days in the fire is long enough, I'm coming home". 10,000 days of paralysis is long enough.

Also, the pictures are supposed to hold clues. All I noticed are: Most of the pictures the band members point to something references 11. 11 candles, the clock is 11, whatever it might be. I also noticed the obvious: Two pictures, create a whole image. Same with the face on the cover, two faces make a whole new face. Two songs, whole new track.

=P

Oh by the way, before someone says "Wow, you're reading way too deep into this": Keenan already said there were tons of puzzles intentionally placed inside the album. It was all based around puzzles and mystery intentionally, which is honestly half the fun =).

I won't say you're going way too deep but rather the opposite, DIG DEEPER! I am going to reasearch more into his mother's paralysis 'cos i have a sneaky suspicion the lyrics in Rosetta Stoned may have some meaning aswell as the time, and also i noticed he seems to use 'prozac' in a lot of his songs, right across all albums.

I know how they did all this, it's called acid and being a brainy bastard

This whole concept of hiddeness is getting me excited :o

EDIT: ok looking at the lyrics there's a few reference to bladder problems, maybe after his mum became paralysed he started having these problems. Also a lot to do with aliens, maybe something to do with being so alienated by everything. "Careful to mark your girlfriends 17 fucking cats" is extremely confusing for me, although 17 being the only number in the lyrics may have some reference to another song number? or 17 minutes into the album? I will still research this as far as possible try to make sense of it all.

"And after calming me down with some orange slices and some needle spooning.
He revealed to me a
Singular purpose, he said you are the chosen one.
The one who will deliver the message.
A message of hope for those who choose to hear it
And a warning for those who do not.
Me? The chosen one,
They chose me.
And I didn't graduate from fucking high school."

This could be the doctor telling him he will have to look after his mother as she is paralysed and then how he feels afterwards?

these are just theories and i wanna hear some more from absolutely everyone :D

EDIT2: 17 minutes into the album, right on cue are the words "A passionate spirit"
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: L'homme magique on June 17, 2006, 07:44:16 pm
Quote
I know how they did all this, it's called acid and being a pretentious shithead
fixed
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 17, 2006, 07:49:56 pm
-1 Karma for downgrading tool, this is much better than anything like "The Da Vinci Code" because this is all on real events in his life rather than a bunch of "pretentious shithead"s making up some BS and saying it's real then later on going, "Oh no it's fiction"
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: MDX on June 17, 2006, 07:56:37 pm
well hey, not - 1 to magicman but i disagree, tool are infact brilliant.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 17, 2006, 08:03:10 pm
OK aswell as Rosetta Stone i have found a small reference maybe to his mother's paralysation in "Jambi"

"up to my neck soon to drown." this would only make sense if she was paralysed from the neck down, see what i'm getting at?

EDIT: Also, because it says "my" i can only assume (if my original theory is correct) the song is sung as if it was his mother's words
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: L'homme magique on June 17, 2006, 08:14:01 pm
Quote
this is much better than anything like "The Da Vinci Code" because this is all on real events in his life rather than a bunch of "pretentious shithead"s making up some BS and saying it's real then later on going, "Oh no it's fiction"
the da vinci code sucks too

and I really couldn't care less about the real events in his life

I don't even like his name

and it kinda says in the da vinci code that it's fiction

maybe you're thinking of 'a million little pieces' by james frey (which is also pretentious and stupid and horrible)?
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on June 17, 2006, 08:26:45 pm
Ok this post will be all about "Lost Keys"

This could be a reference to "The Lost Keys of Freemasonry"? I am going to try and establish a link between this and Rosetta Stone which was previously mentioned as "an artifact used to stranscribe ancient egyption hyroglyphics" as said by Drakonis

Also thw hole thing about the doctor and nurse, I think the most important part being where they mention there is no ID so he is basically an "alien" referring back to Rosetta Stoned and my suggestion of him being alienated

Ok i have established a link between "The Lost Keys of Freemasonry" and Rosetta Stone:

ARK OF THE COVENANT.  One of the most sacred objects among the Israelites.  It was a chest made of shittim wood, or acacia, richly decorated, forty-five inches long, and eighteen inches wide, and contained the two tables of stone on which the ten commandments were engraved, the golden pot that held manna, and Aaron's rod.  It was placed in the holy of holies, first of the tabernacle, and then of the temple.  Such is its masonic and scriptural history.  The idea of this ark was evidently borrowed from the Egyptians, in whose religious rites a similar chest or coffer is to be found.  Herodotus mentions several instances.  Speaking of the festival of Papremis, he says (ii. 63) that the image of the god was kept in a small wooden shrine covered with plates of gold, which shrine was conveyed in a procession of the priests and people from the temple into a second sacred building.  Among the sculptures are to be found bass reliefs of the ark of Isis.  The greatest of the religious ceremonies of the Egyptians was the procession of the shrines mentioned in the Rosetta stone, and which is often found depicted on the sculptures.  These shrines were of two kinds, one a canopy, but the other, called the great shrine, was an ark or sacred boat.  It was borne on the shoulders of priests by means of staves passing through rings in its sides, and was taken into the temple and deposited on a stand.  Some of these arks contained, says Wilkinson ( Notes to Herod.  II. 58, n.  9), the elements of life and stability, and others the sacred beetle of the sun, overshadowed by the wings of two figures of the goddess Thmei.  In all this we see the type of the Jewish ark.  The introduction of the ark into the ceremonies of Freemasonry evidently is in reference to its loss and recovery; and hence its symbolism is to be interpreted as connected with the masonic idea of loss and recovery, which always alludes to a loss of life and a recovery of immortality.  In the first temple of this life the ark is lost; in the second temple of the future life it is recovered.  And thus the ark of the covenant is one of the many masonic symbols of the resurrection.

A long read but very interesting where it starts talking about the image of the god
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: harvey danger on May 15, 2007, 08:27:20 am
Revived!

LionNinja, myself and a friend were all talking about 10,000 Days, since the Tool concerts are coming up; we figured we'd do some more playing around with the CDs and whatnot. If you've figured anything else, post it!

I just downloaded and installed the XP Karaoke plug-in for Media Center, and now I'm going to try to isolate the whispers on the Third Eye LP.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on May 15, 2007, 12:31:36 pm
me want see Tool :(.

A friend of mine saw them and they said they held the first note of "Lost Keys" for almost an hour before starting.
drove the crowd nutty.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on May 15, 2007, 01:26:22 pm
They opened with Stinkfist when i saw them a few months ago, can't wait until August

Pants it should be pretty easy to find stuff out now that some of the lyrics sites have amended the lyrical text for 10,000 days


This thread was made before the Music Discussion board i think VisionThing
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Gazus on May 16, 2007, 01:41:08 pm
First time I saw them (june 2006), they opened with Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned.
Second time (december 2006), it was Stinkfist.

Oh damn, I forgot they'll be in France in august.
Gotta see them one more time.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: dialupdaemon on May 16, 2007, 09:02:18 pm
I tried the thing suggested in the first post, and it did sound pretty sweet. I agree with the people who don't quite see the huge appeal of Tool though. They're talented and make some pretty good music but theres plenty of music I'd rather listen to. Personally I appreciate more depth in lyrics (check anything by Pain of Salvation) when it comes to progressive music than the kind of stuff thats being found for Tool.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: harvey danger on May 16, 2007, 09:38:28 pm
Apparently if mantra is played on a vinyl record at 56 RPM, it sounds like a cat purring.

Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Gazus on May 17, 2007, 11:10:11 pm
Actually, it is a cat.
Maynard's one.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: harvey danger on May 18, 2007, 12:18:16 am
Bleh. That's what I meant.  :P
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Gazus on May 18, 2007, 01:52:25 pm
I supported what you meant. :P


Btw, what version of Pushit do you like more, people ?
Album version on Aenima, or live version on Salival ?
(Salival's one wins for me)
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: harvey danger on May 18, 2007, 10:29:46 pm
Btw, what version of Pushit do you like more, people ?
Album version on Aenima, or live version on Salival ?
(Salival's one wins for me)

The version from Salival is good. I was never very fond of the album version, though.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on May 19, 2007, 05:20:12 pm
Salival is fucken win, I have had so many good experiences with Pushit on that album :D:D
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on May 19, 2007, 05:32:41 pm
I appreciate more depth in lyrics

are you kidding?
are you saying Tool has no depth in lyrics?
Tool have some of my favourite lyrics.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: dialupdaemon on May 20, 2007, 12:38:10 am
Except that on the only album of theres I own (10,000 Days) a lot of the songs don't have decipherable lyrics unless you look them up on the internet. I'm talking about the kinds of concept albums that have really deep meaning behind them and tell a story or that sort of thing.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Pete on May 20, 2007, 02:53:09 am
But I'm pretty sure that 10000 days does follow a storyline of sorts. Just I can't understand what Mayonnaisse is singing half the time.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on May 20, 2007, 11:14:29 pm
But I'm pretty sure that 10000 days does follow a storyline of sorts. Just I can't understand what Mayonnaisse is singing half the time.

really?
I find the only song that's hard to decipher is Rosetta Stoned.
and it's not really meant to be heard.

crazy person and all.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on May 21, 2007, 02:20:42 am
the theme of the album is his mother's death
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on May 21, 2007, 02:32:10 pm
the theme of the album is his mother's death

yeah.
Wings for Mary pt.1 and 2 are so freaking well done.
they used to bring me close to tears.

Judith by APC is also about his mother.
I remember the day she died and he posted her picture on the APC site.
not long after 10,000 days was announced on the Tool site.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Ant on May 21, 2007, 05:47:22 pm
I didn't know that :o

what's up with your avatar btw, the ice climber looking ice cube is looking ill

downloading Judith - APC nowzz
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Sirix on May 21, 2007, 06:05:34 pm
I didn't know that :o

what's up with your avatar btw, the ice climber looking ice cube is looking ill

downloading Judith - APC nowzz


yar, I found a site that converts pictures to ascii drawings.
it looked great until I truned it into an avatar. :P
i'm just going to revert back to my old one.

and yeah, Judith is amazing.
in fact, APC is amazing.
you should have everything by them -ever-.
Title: Re: 10,000 days, Wings for Mary.
Post by: Asor on May 26, 2007, 12:40:39 am
Oh mein, I need to get all my Tool songs back after my last computer crashed :(. I really miss listening to Tool  :'(
/me plays Rosetta Stoned/Lateralus/Vicarious/The Pot inside his mind