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Title: about machinae & sweden
Post by: leicesterfox on February 09, 2006, 06:43:05 pm
I wrote a post a while back about this, but the idea of a machinae song in swedish is still rambling on in my mind.

I mean its just an idea, but I ain't heard nothing from any of the band members, let alone Robert ?

So whats the take on that then ?

Yay or Nay ?
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: MashedByMachines on February 09, 2006, 06:45:50 pm
yes, an unofficial song in swedish, from robert with or without the band would be awesome :D i have thought of it also
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: robert on February 09, 2006, 07:13:25 pm
Hmm, I think I said this last time too, that it's kind of unlikely since swedish is a rather ugly language imo. It'd take some weird fluke of inspiration to write a swedish song, and I'm not holding my breath for that to happen.

It's fun that you have that thought, though. :)
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Eliminator on February 09, 2006, 07:33:34 pm
maybe a song in swedish describing how even an ugly language like swedish can still find true love?  8)
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: MashedByMachines on February 09, 2006, 07:34:54 pm
i doesnt have to be good, or seriuos for that matter :P
indeed swedish is not a nice language to sing in :P
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: GeeDougg on February 09, 2006, 07:55:51 pm
Swedish is a rather ugly language imo.

It's fun that you have that thought, though. :)

I STRONGLY disagree Robert. It's a shame you don't appreciate your beautiful language. I heard it for the first time in my life when I was 10 and visited Sweden, and I've been in love wih it Since. I still like German more, but Swedish is also amazing. I plan on learning it after I learn German. It especially sounds sexy (they both do actually) when spoken by a chic, so maybe you could have a half-Swedish half-English song, and the Swedish bits could even be short bits in the song or the chorus or something, and they could be sung by a Swedish girl with a nice voice. And the song could still be heavy and melodic like TTLG or something, and that would rock.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: MashedByMachines on February 09, 2006, 09:32:40 pm
wow, that sounds like an amazing idea.
lets do it robert plzplzplz mkthx  ;D
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: FallenTabris on February 09, 2006, 09:35:57 pm
hahaha.. I don't think it's any coincidence that there are so many Swedish groups that sing only in in English.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Bates on February 09, 2006, 09:37:01 pm
Then machinae should make a song in German. Damn, that would rock.  :P

Or better yet, one third English, Swedish and German.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: GeeDougg on February 09, 2006, 10:16:16 pm
Bateman's idea (or sub-extension or my own idea? - whichever) rules.

FallenTabris: Sweden's a country where some TV channels are ni English with Swedish subtitles, so that's not surprising. Besides they're a small country that's over-exposed to all things English-speaking and American in origin.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Krelian on February 09, 2006, 10:18:10 pm
Then machinae should make a song in German. Damn, that would rock.  :P

Or better yet, one third English, Swedish and German.
What about the other two thirds?
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: GeeDougg on February 09, 2006, 10:20:55 pm
I think he meant one-third English, one-third German, and one-third Swedish.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Smeagol on February 09, 2006, 10:22:26 pm
Or better yet, one third English, Swedish and German.

Then enter it into the Eurovision song contest!
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: GeeDougg on February 09, 2006, 10:23:27 pm
Or better yet, one third English, Swedish and German.

Then enter it into the Eurovision song contest!

The what?
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Smeagol on February 09, 2006, 10:25:00 pm
Only one of the most amusing annual programmes ever created. Once a year, a bunch of european countries pick an artist to represent their country in the Eurovision. They sing a 3 minute long song, and everyone in the included European countries votes on it. Most entries are fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Bates on February 09, 2006, 10:26:57 pm
Or better yet, one third English, Swedish and German.

Then enter it into the Eurovision song contest!

Best idea ever.

Come on, machinae, do it!
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Smeagol on February 09, 2006, 10:28:40 pm
Looking at Norway's entry last year, which ranked quite highly, it may be a good idea.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: GeeDougg on February 09, 2006, 10:31:18 pm
I've never even heard of this thing up until now. So, the people vote for one artist to represent "all countries"?! Or do they pick an artist out of all the artists representing different countries?
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Trezker on February 09, 2006, 10:42:32 pm
Each country goes through a painful process of finding the worst song they can produce, then all off europe votes to select the worst song of Europe.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: PrescriptiveBarony on February 09, 2006, 10:44:19 pm
http://www.jetlagtravel.com/molvania/eurovision_2004.html (http://www.jetlagtravel.com/molvania/eurovision_2004.html)
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Trezker on February 09, 2006, 10:51:00 pm
That's strange, I think it looks like perfect eurovision material.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Smeagol on February 09, 2006, 10:55:52 pm
Bah, that could have rivalled 'Grandma bangs the drum' from last year. That should have won.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: PrescriptiveBarony on February 09, 2006, 10:56:03 pm
(it's fake of course)
(There's also a 2005 entry linked to at the top)
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Lexx on February 09, 2006, 10:57:55 pm
Bah, it's not even a new song. How half-arsed can you get?
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Smeagol on February 09, 2006, 10:59:33 pm
Quote
I am the Anti-Pope.
I am the Anti-Pope.
Like a lion kills an antelope.
Like a hammer hits a cantaloupe.
I am the Anti-Pope.

That would have a decent chance of winning if someone really entered it.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Zombie With Style on February 10, 2006, 07:02:03 am
Only one of the most amusing annual programmes ever created. Once a year, a bunch of european countries pick an artist to represent their country in the Eurovision. They sing a 3 minute long song, and everyone in the included European countries votes on it. Most entries are fucking hilarious.

wha? you get something like that and us Americans get stuck with crap like American Idol? Once again the American Media can go burn in hell

and to keep on topic:

German + MaSu = Awsome
I'd really like to hear that acctually
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Smeagol on February 10, 2006, 12:59:04 pm
Well, the UK still has crap like Pop Idol. I only know of this stuff because I have a 13 year old sister. 'tis truly hell.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Laser.T on February 10, 2006, 05:14:48 pm
Yeah, the UK and some other countries have their own Pop Idols (It was a UK thing first, then you Americans took it and called it American Idol, I suprised you didn't rename the comedy series The American Office. Anyway...) but Eurovision compares nothing to that.

If you're still unclear: Every year each European country selects a song (and act) to represent them in the Eurovision Song Contest. When the Contest comes around each country's act sings to watchers to all over Europe from the Contest's host country and at the end the population of each country tele-votes for their favorite act, which converts into a points system. The most voted getting 12, then 10, 8, 7, 6, so on. And so the points are totaled up and a winner is announced.

Most of the acts are hilarious and cheesy and the voting is hugely political, but it's always a fun night. I never miss it.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Smeagol on February 10, 2006, 05:19:35 pm
The Moldovan entry should have won last year's one :(
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Laser.T on February 10, 2006, 05:33:17 pm
Which one was that?

The only one's I remember from last year was the hip Ukrainian one, the LAS VEGAS Swedish one and the four hot girls of Vanilla Ninja ;D
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Goshawk on February 10, 2006, 05:36:02 pm
Heard from robert loads. :/
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Smeagol on February 10, 2006, 05:39:17 pm
Grandma bangs the drum ;D

The norweigan entry was actually pretty good....for hair metal at least. And yes, Vanilla Ninja did indeed wtfpwn.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: GeeDougg on February 12, 2006, 03:14:48 am
No member of MaSu has yet to comment on our idea of a MaSu song in Swedish/German/English (or any combo of the above languages other than just English)....
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: robert on February 12, 2006, 09:59:34 am
Swedish is a rather ugly language imo.

It's fun that you have that thought, though. :)

I STRONGLY disagree Robert. It's a shame you don't appreciate your beautiful language. I heard it for the first time in my life when I was 10 and visited Sweden, and I've been in love wih it Since. I still like German more, but Swedish is also amazing. I plan on learning it after I learn German. It especially sounds sexy (they both do actually) when spoken by a chic, so maybe you could have a half-Swedish half-English song, and the Swedish bits could even be short bits in the song or the chorus or something, and they could be sung by a Swedish girl with a nice voice. And the song could still be heavy and melodic like TTLG or something, and that would rock.


Hmmm, combo would be more likely. We already did one of those (although not in swe or german - check our Redeemer). However I can say now with fair certainty you'll never find any german in our songs.

When I say I don't think swedish sounds very good, there are a few languages that sound even worse imo, and that's german, danish and dutch. :)

But sure, if we got a chic to sing a few lines in swedish somewhere, I suppose I could live with that, but ... Still, don't hold your breath.  :P
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Bates on February 12, 2006, 10:44:02 am
Hmmm, combo would be more likely. We already did one of those (although not in swe or german - check our Redeemer). However I can say now with fair certainty you'll never find any german in our songs.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

(dramatic camera zoom effect)

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: HackNeyed on February 12, 2006, 11:40:53 am
Yeah i'd been meaning to ask why you only write/sing in english. I know you said sometime back shortly before DXM about maybe singing in swedish and maybe doing a love song of sorts(that being Killer Instinct i suppose) though my memory isnt very good.

I don't know if you have heard of a band called Garmarna. They have an awesome song called Vedergällningen(crappy website preview) (http://www.fearmusic.se/garmarna/mp3/vedergallningen.mp3) on the album of the same name. I love the lyrics (http://www.fearmusic.se/garmarna/content/lyrics_vedergallningen.htm) too, its such a beautifully fucked up premise and haunting song.

Anyway, all languages can have their ups and downs, cool and silly sounds... (hah a rhyme!) the opening to Insidious and ending to Theme From Jets'N'Guns. Rammstein's “Moskau” has a Russian girl singing and its fucking catchy as hell even if i dont have the font installed to even look at the lyrics... since listening to MaSu i appreciate music more and i care even less if there is even a singer. French, German, Swedish, Spanish, Japanese... it can all be good as long as someone tells me what they say.

P.S. lol Bateman how do you do that zoom in with the background zooming out at the same time?! amazing!
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Frigger on February 12, 2006, 12:56:58 pm
well, listening to a language you don't know actually can be good. i personally listen to a bit of french hip hop lately. as declared enemy of the french language(at least for myself to speak *making noises like tongue is breaking apart*) and of rap/hip hop thats kinda contradicting, but bein a hypocrite generally pwns anyway xD.

you can sing in german if you want to, but pleeeaaaaaseeee no dutch. pleeeeeaaaaseeeee. if you want to you could kidnap a few of your german fans(not me, i suck ;/, take bateman) and make them sing "ohne holland fahrn wir zur wm", that might rock ^_^
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Smeagol on February 12, 2006, 01:08:43 pm
Machinae should totally do an anti-censorship song in Chinese.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: ktorbo Puertafrigo on February 12, 2006, 01:18:24 pm
well, listening to a language you don't know actually can be good. i personally listen to a bit of french hip hop lately. as declared enemy of the french language(at least for myself to speak *making noises like tongue is breaking apart*) and of rap/hip hop thats kinda contradicting, but bein a hypocrite generally pwns anyway xD.
I bet you're listening to oldskool stuff like MC Solaar. I remember when hip hop used to be fucking awesome...  :)
Unfortunately, most new french rap/hip-hop "artists" suck, now. That's sad, because they try so hard to have the worst instrumentals ever, and to rap like depressed people with no sense of rythm or anything... :(
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Personally, I think a German/Russian/Spanish or something combo would be interesting, to say the least. :)

Also, if you're ever going to sing french lyrics, you'd better sing them fast, because otherwise it will not sound very good... French language doesn't go very well with slow singing, IMO...

BTW, I think it's probably the same for most latin languages, but I may be wrong...

EDIT : Just started to imagine how it would sound if Robert was singing in French, and it would be REALLY FUCKING AWESOME !!!  ;D
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Bates on February 12, 2006, 03:55:25 pm
I don't give damn about the wm, but did the Netherlands fail to qualify?

The Eurovision song contest is also a good chance to sing in more than one language.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: L'homme magique on February 12, 2006, 08:37:37 pm
Quote
Unfortunately, most new french rap/hip-hop "artists" suck, now.
Saïan Supa Crew!!

:P
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Trezker on February 12, 2006, 11:44:59 pm
np: The Kristet Utseende - Heta nätter i Haiti
I think swedish sounds just fine...
The lyrics of TKU are however NSFW.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: GeeDougg on February 14, 2006, 12:31:29 pm
A great example of German/Spanish mixed: "Rammstein - Te Quiero Puta".

BTW thanks for considering what I said, Robert. Of course the bit about German sounding horrible almost made me cry, but the rest I like. Heh.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Bates on February 15, 2006, 08:33:54 pm
German isn't exactly a beautiful language. Maybe it was a few hundred years ago.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: SpeedD on February 16, 2006, 05:21:17 am
German isn't exactly a beautiful language. Maybe it was a few hundred years ago.

Yes, back when grunts were the "thing".
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: GeeDougg on February 16, 2006, 02:22:03 pm
They don't grunt. That's a common misconception. Of course it sounds cooler when they do.

Anyways I think that's utter crap. German is THE most beautiful language in the world IMNSHO. It certainly doesn't need to be "touchy-feely" and "soft" like latin languages. It sounds beautiful the way it is. The structure in German is also unbeatable.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Smogelore on July 08, 2006, 08:48:35 pm
I have a trauma of somekind from swedish... I'm from finland so they expect us to learn all new language in 6 years.... and teacers say that swedis is easier to learn than english  :P
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Spiff on July 08, 2006, 09:25:14 pm
The structure in German is also unbeatable.
Foreign students who have to learn der/die/das/er/sie/es/der/dem/der etc will tell you otherwise. :P What's wrong with just die/sie, like it/its? Not that Swedish is much better in that regard, mind.

And you can write good Swedish lyrics for heavy music, I think Streebers wrote some very powerful lyrics that would sound silly in English. Maybe it was their way of singing, but some words don't have any good-sounding equivalent, like Betongbarn (concrete-children). Translating their lyrics takes away all the punch, like:
"Döden vann sista striden, en rysk roulette mellan mänskan o tiden"
"Death won the final battle, a russian roulette between man and time"
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Trezker on July 08, 2006, 11:06:42 pm
You can only translate the text, everything else is lost.

Often a text in one language has more than one meaning, then it's impossible to translate correctly.
You'd have to translate into several versions to get all the angles.
Title: Re: about machinae & sweden
Post by: Bocom on September 27, 2006, 11:00:24 pm
Hey, we have Idol too. :O