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Title: Speed Building - How do I do this the right way?
Post by: finaleclipse06 on November 16, 2005, 06:37:17 am
I was wondering if anybody knows of a good method to build speed (for soloing).  I've heard of good practice habits and bad, good being not arching the wrist, and playing each note so that you can hear it clearly, and making sure you stay relaxed, and bad being the opposite of those, and other good habits I have forgotten to mention, basically.

I can get to a certain speed, but then I find that I can't go any faster.  This has happened time and again.  I know there is a reason for this, but I don't know what it is.  Has anybody else encountered this obstacle?  If so, please share what you did to overcome it.  If not, but you know of a way to overcome it, share that as well!  Much thanks!
Title: Re: Speed Building - How do I do this the right way?
Post by: Jack Lupino on November 17, 2005, 01:29:09 am
Uhm, yeah i want to become faster as well, the thing i usually practice are arpeggios..

hmm..

ah, well, here is an example :

  |-------------------------------------------------5--7--8--|
  |---------------------------------------5--6--8------------|
  |--------------------------------5--7-----------------------|
  |----------------------5--7--9-----------------------------|
  |------------5--7--8---------------------------------------|
  |--5--7--8-------------------------------------------------|

If you did it well, it will sound like this : http://www.geocities.com/trollstjerne/Aminor.mid

..

Also check out this site

http://www.geocities.com/trollstjerne/arpeggios.html
Title: Re: Speed Building - How do I do this the right way?
Post by: finaleclipse06 on November 17, 2005, 04:26:01 am
It looks like a really good page! Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Speed Building - How do I do this the right way?
Post by: lindarthebard on November 17, 2005, 08:36:56 am
That's a scale, not an arpeggio. An arpeggio is a series of notes in a chord played individually, such as if you played F# A C# E F# in sequence you'd have played an arpeggiated F#min7 (F# minor minor 7th if you want to be one of those assholes that has to get technical about everything and specify the quality of the triad AND the seventh).

This isn't necessarily for speed building, but it hurts your fingers like hell, so it must be good to practice with. Create patters on the fretboard like this and try to pick up the speed on it. After doing that for 1-3 hours, practice your blues scales. That's the key to good soloing. Everything rock (as a generality, so don't jump up my ass about it) is based off of blues and jazz riffs. Don't JUST practice speed though, get accuracy too, otherwise you'll just be able to play like shit at a fast tempo.


  |----------------------------------------------------------|
  |----------------------------------------------------------|
  |----------------------------------------------------------|
  |----------------------------------------------------------|
  |------------7---6-----------------------------------------|
  |---5---8--------------------------------------------------|


By the way, your tabs will be evenly spaced automatically if you use the teletype tag (tt) and (/tt) in square brackets. It's the little typewriter icon.
Title: Re: Speed Building - How do I do this the right way?
Post by: MDX on November 17, 2005, 07:56:35 pm
BURNNNN!!
Title: Re: Speed Building - How do I do this the right way?
Post by: Boaz on November 18, 2005, 01:54:12 am
that was a nice burn, but to the point, when i tried to speed up playing i found it relatively easy except for my pinky, whioch was incredibly weak, if you have the same problem to alot of pinky exercises in order to allow you to use your pinky for hammers and pull offs.

 
  |--------------------------------------------------------------|
  |--------------------------------------------------------------|
  |--------------------------------------------------------------|
  |------------------------------------1--4---1--5------------|
  |-------------------1--4----1--5----------------------------|
  |-1--4---1---5----------------------------------------------|


and so on, keep your pointer finger barred, and then hammer and pull off each note while switching the hammered note. its better to do it on the lower frets because they are farther apart, also i found the 4-6 strings to build strength whiel the 1-3 strings build dex/speed. wow i feel like im talkign about an rpg game, sorry for the typos, im to lazy to fix them
Title: Re: Speed Building - How do I do this the right way?
Post by: potatismos on November 18, 2005, 07:23:55 pm
simple!  pick a riff, lick or song, start by playing it slow, and when its going smooth you speed up, keep up with the speed, speed up, keep up, speed up, keep up til' it cant go any faster.     I strogly recommend playing along with a metronome or drummachine.

frist song i played this way was hero, I used to play that song all day and when i fucked up i slowed down, banged the riff/song into my head, played faster until i reached a speed of 300 bpm.


just rock man! ;)
Title: Re: Speed Building - How do I do this the right way?
Post by: Xeero on November 20, 2005, 11:56:52 am
"(F# minor minor 7th if you want to be one of those assholes that has to get technical about everything and specify the quality of the triad AND the seventh)."

You gotta specify the quality of both, else you'd be getting F#mM7 (F# A C# E# (Enharmonically an F) or F#7 (F# A C# E)...  Maybe there'll be a rare occasion you meet somebody who thinks something's diminished...  But I won't go there.  You get the idea.
Title: Re: Speed Building - How do I do this the right way?
Post by: lindarthebard on November 20, 2005, 12:09:23 pm
"(F# minor minor 7th if you want to be one of those assholes that has to get technical about everything and specify the quality of the triad AND the seventh)."

You gotta specify the quality of both, else you'd be getting F#mM7 (F# A C# E# (Enharmonically an F) or F#7 (F# A C# E)...  Maybe there'll be a rare occasion you meet somebody who thinks something's diminished...  But I won't go there.  You get the idea.

Ehhhh..... implied if you're assuming F# minor is the key signature. =P
Title: Re: Speed Building - How do I do this the right way?
Post by: MDX on November 20, 2005, 06:32:06 pm
lol

(dances around his music degree)