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Title: Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Fallout on September 23, 2004, 01:09:54 am
w00t. This should be an interesting one..
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Laser.T on September 23, 2004, 01:13:57 am
Rikku is hot! 10 wins!
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Layson Juravis on September 23, 2004, 01:18:55 am
Neither! Final Fantasy Tactics was the best one of the series. Mostly because it did not have the FF feel at all. It wasn't focused around someone trying to become God, or destroy the planet to cleanse it of evil. It was a highly political intrigue with one of the most messed up (read: Good) endings in an RPG.

Plus, the soundtrack was incredible and the battle system was interesting (although it could have used larger scale battles at times).
 
Amongst the rest... I don't know. FF6 was pretty good, although I wouldn't tag it the best RPG of all time. FF4 was nice, and FF1 was the mother of console RPGs (and it's very funny, yet boring, to play today.

FF7 had graphics in which I couldn't understand what was going on (read last post in worst game ever); INSERT INTO yabbse_messages (ID_MSG, ID_TOPIC, ID_MEMBER, subject, posterName, posterEmail, posterTime, posterIP, smiliesEnabled, modifiedTime, modifiedName, body, icon, attachmentSize, attachmentFilename) VALUES and I wanted to punch Cloud in the face so often I had to buy a new TV.

FF8 had horrible main characters who all shared the same background... and... one word. Draw.

FF9 looked cool, but I only got to play it for 6 hours. But it seems to be cutesy, amusing and yet epic. I probably would have enjoyed it, although I've been told that the story quickly takes a traditionnal FF line afterwards... And there's Quina.

I haven't played FF10, but my brother who has played them all since the 6th told me that it had the worst story of the lot. So I didn't approach it with a 10 foot pole.

Layson
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: V-man on September 23, 2004, 01:52:28 am
I would also go with FF tactics. i recently completed it, and it takes a good game to make me play psx again. Great skill-system, great story, great characters (nice cameo of aeris and cloud); INSERT INTO yabbse_messages (ID_MSG, ID_TOPIC, ID_MEMBER, subject, posterName, posterEmail, posterTime, posterIP, smiliesEnabled, modifiedTime, modifiedName, body, icon, attachmentSize, attachmentFilename) VALUES and a great ending.

FF7 is probably the next best in line. The graphics wasn't really good, compare it to FF8, there's a huge difference. But the story was good, and it had some cool characters, and  the game has a really dark and violent tone.

FFX wins the prize for best soundtrack, didn't like it that much though. Tidus is such a whiner. I haven't played FF9 and i don't think i will either, i dont't like that childish look of it.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Bearfoot on September 23, 2004, 02:08:47 am
All of the above, save eight.  Eight was too needlessly complicated and boring for me.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Einkoro on September 23, 2004, 05:26:44 am
FF8 because it managed to maintain my attention and be interesting. FF7 because the battle system was faster than the rest.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Bearfoot on September 23, 2004, 06:22:09 am
Opinion on what's out about the new FF?

Not to mention opinion on an actual apparent FF7 GAME spin off?  

It's supposedly to star what's his name, the guy who turned into monsters.. the optional character.

And get this, roumor has it that it's going to be inspired by Devil May Cry...
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: chompy on September 23, 2004, 06:50:18 am
I've only played 7 & 8, and not for very long mind you. I still reckon that chrono trigger is one of the best rpgs on the console for its time.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Layson Juravis on September 23, 2004, 07:11:35 am
To me, the best console RPGs are the Suikodens, especially the first 2. Quick battle systems, endearing characters and an epic plot with political twists that diverts from the usual Good vs Evil.

Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Turtle on September 23, 2004, 07:39:09 am
Favorite overall: 6.
Best memories at least.  Haven't had a lot of experiences with new ones other than 7, but 6 stands out in my mind as one of my favorite games ever.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Bearfoot on September 23, 2004, 08:13:33 am
Favorite memory wise, the US FFIII.

I still get misty eyed when I hear the opera music.

Good stuff.

I've done everything there is to do in that game.  Me in my friend (who incidently is due to visit any second now...)
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Valentine Revolution on September 23, 2004, 09:27:45 am
You're *in* your friend? Doesn't that hurt?  :P

Anyway, I'd say 7 is my favourite because if I hadn't played it I'd never be as big a gamer as I am now, and I'd never have gotten into anime either. I just love everything about it, and Vincent is my fave character, the scene in Lucrecia's waterfall makes me cry every single time. 6 also deserves an honorable mention because of the opera scene. I love Celes.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: MDX on September 23, 2004, 10:46:39 am
FF8 had me hooked for months, i WANTED TO BE IN THE GAME.. then something happened and i got stuck in the game, then i woke up.. fucking lame.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Einkoro on September 24, 2004, 04:51:41 am
Opinion on what's out about the new FF?

Not to mention opinion on an actual apparent FF7 GAME spin off?  

It's supposedly to star what's his name, the guy who turned into monsters.. the optional character.

And get this, roumor has it that it's going to be inspired by Devil May Cry...
If it's similar to the first DMC, god damn win. If it's like the second one, suck.

Vincent == best character in FF
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Fallout on September 24, 2004, 09:07:48 pm
Agreed. :)
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Boaz on September 24, 2004, 11:29:07 pm
NOW THIS IS AN ARCADE THREAD!
umm ive played almost every FF and i realy enjoyed tactics and the polotics and its complexity but not needless complexity

ff1-twas great way back when but now it just sucks

ff2- better then the first but still not the best, fun times though

ff3- loved it. thats all i ahve to say! well.. ok the graphics wernt great but look at teh time period and 4 the time period that was liek the best gaem ever, simple, long, and just fun

ff4- this is one of the onmes i never got to play:(

ff5- nohting special

ff6- didnt get to play this one either

ff7- i am eturnally loyal to ff7 as it was the first ff i played! i never actually beat it but thats cuz im weird and play the game to the very end and then stop and dont play it again at teh last boss:P but yah this was great and a great graphic improvement since its predacessors. i enjoyed teh storyline and the puzzles;D

ff8- it was to needlessly comlicated and everyone seemed almost te same, there was no vampire, smoking/swearing pilot, dog, or guy with a agun for an arm as there wa sin ff7. half of the fun of an rpg is learning aboutt he people, this game didnt deliver and it was far to needlessly complicated.

ff9-beautiful, my peersonnal favorite of the lot, i loved it because it was so simple and yet so very amusing;D

ff10- meh it was very good, the story line wasnt great but meh, i really liekd the skill learnign from this game it was nifty

ff11-to not traditional i liked the old ones

ffta- fun! great for a handheld! the laws pissed em off though! freat game though i anjoyed almost everyhting about it especially trhe story line, it shocked me how good it was for a handheld.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Turtle on September 25, 2004, 02:17:02 am
Boaz - FF4 was just what the Japanese version of FF2 was released as.  FF6 was also the Japanese version of FF3.  What caused Square to do this, I have no idea.  But yeah.  The two versions are nearly identical I believe.

I actually liked FF5 a lot.  Probably my favorite after 3/6.  Fun job system, but didn't have as great of a plot.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Smeagol on September 25, 2004, 12:35:00 pm
hmmm this may be a bad time to say i've only ever played FFtactics... which i thought was crap (GBA version, ick) the laws thingy was just stupid, all the mages were crap so as soon as you got one where melee attack isn't allowed you're screwed(unless you get a lvl 10 + black/white mage)
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Fallout on September 25, 2004, 02:45:12 pm
/slap Smeagol
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: ПФББЧ on September 25, 2004, 03:18:50 pm
i've played all of them except the nes 3, and tactics. Ive also played the gameboy ones. (legends & adventure) I also played mystic quest, which isnt strictly much of an FF game, its still fun

in order of preference:
ff7
ff9
ff5
ff10
ff8
ff legends 3 (kickass classic gameboy game)
ff6
ff-mq
ff4

legends 1 and 2, and adventure were kinda sucky...
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: ПФББЧ on September 25, 2004, 03:28:29 pm
Boaz - FF4 was just what the Japanese version of FF2 was released as.  FF6 was also the Japanese version of FF3.  What caused Square to do this, I have no idea.  But yeah.  The two versions are nearly identical I believe.

I actually liked FF5 a lot.  Probably my favorite after 3/6.  Fun job system, but didn't have as great of a plot.
square never released 2 and 3 (nes ones) in the US or Europe. They decided to continue the number scheme for the US as if nothing had happened though. Hence FF3us is FF6j and FF2us is FF4j.

FF5 never came out in US or Europe either, and was translated by fans years ago for the rom. The square translation for the PSX sucks in my opinion, since farris did NOT talk like a pirate. Dialoge in the psx one looks like it was translated by a 1st year japanese student.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: t3hcammy on September 25, 2004, 04:43:19 pm
Seven was a classic, but I'd have to give my vote to ff10 since I was more successful in it.
 ;D
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: L'homme magique on September 27, 2004, 02:41:28 am
Mystic Quest. All the others were tripe (excluding 1-5 and Tactics :P) IMO.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Turtle on September 27, 2004, 08:12:11 am
Hehe...  I remember having a lot of fun with MQ, but I was really young at the time...    Must have played through the game 10 times or more completely.  Not sure if it was really a good game or it's just nostalgia.

The end boss could be killed really fast if you just healed to death, or you could fight it the "normal" way by just nuking the hell out of it with spells.  That thing had a ton of forms.  Good times...
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: ПФББЧ on September 27, 2004, 12:30:19 pm
MQ isnt that good these days, but i like it. <3 zsnes
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: L'homme magique on September 27, 2004, 11:14:12 pm
MQ isnt that good these days, but i like it. <3 zsnes
YES IT IS THAT GOOD :(

Man, that game rocked the house, unless you're a stupid snobby elitist.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Turtle on September 28, 2004, 12:51:22 am
Ooh, looks like I'm being struck by the mighty invisble smiter.  What fun.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Fallout on September 28, 2004, 12:58:36 am
im giving all the +karma that i can but this guy seems to be online at all times. im starting to think it may be a guest, because i see guests logged on all the time...
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Valentine Revolution on September 28, 2004, 01:00:26 am
Isn't MQ the same as Final Fantasy Adventure? I had the Rom of that years back but I just couldn't get into it  :-\
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Outboundlight on September 28, 2004, 01:00:38 am
I dont think guests can smite or applaud


soem one log out and check
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Turtle on September 28, 2004, 01:07:03 am
Valentine still has no smites.  She must be the one!
We should burn her.  After all, she turned me into a newt.

...Well, I got better...
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Valentine Revolution on September 28, 2004, 01:14:26 am
Maybe the evil smiter just likes me..... I am a very likable person ^_^
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Fallout on September 28, 2004, 01:14:46 am
How did you turn from a newt into a turtle? :o
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Outboundlight on September 28, 2004, 01:17:25 am
mwahahahah! i jsut smited (smote?) VR


sorry but if even Robert has some, everyone should have some!
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Valentine Revolution on September 28, 2004, 01:18:48 am
But...but....but.....

 :'(

Now I'm flawed.... ;_;
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Outboundlight on September 28, 2004, 01:20:14 am
human, like the rest of us ;)
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Bearfoot on September 28, 2004, 01:22:04 am
I was well liked, until I somehow wound up with five smites in a couple afternoons.. *shrugs*  Doesn't bug me, I'm not here to be loved...

Maybe the evil smiter just likes me..... I am a very likable person ^_^
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: ddrdude13 on September 28, 2004, 02:49:47 am
I voted for 8. I've only played a few of the Final Fantasy games, but I have to say 8 was my favorite.

I'm also quite fond of anthology (5+6)
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Boaz on September 28, 2004, 03:59:38 am
But...but....but.....

 :'(

Now I'm flawed.... ;_;
i no ur pain i ahd no smites until like last week! NOW LOOK AT ME!!!
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Trezker on September 28, 2004, 09:35:03 am
But...but....but.....

 :'(

Now I'm flawed.... ;_;

Don't worry, I still love you.
Just can't find that pic with a bear hugging the world, I thought I had it saved somewhere...
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Valentine Revolution on September 28, 2004, 02:20:30 pm
I was well liked, until I somehow wound up with five smites in a couple afternoons.. *shrugs*  Doesn't bug me, I'm not here to be loved...

Maybe the evil smiter just likes me..... I am a very likable person ^_^

Yeah, but we love you anyway ^_^ And we love Trezker too. Just goes to show that the love of the Machinae-ites cannot be broken by evil smitings!
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: HarmonicDissonance on September 28, 2004, 04:23:02 pm
Isn't MQ the same as Final Fantasy Adventure? I had the Rom of that years back but I just couldn't get into it  :-\

Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest isn't even a Final Fantasy-game! Mystic Quest is the first Seiken Densetsu. Seiken Densetsu II is known as Secret of Mana in Europe, Seiken Densetsu IV as Legend of Mana.

And know, the real FF-games:

FF1 - great game, when I first played it. Now it sucks. (I'm a fake retro-guy.. dammit..)
FF2 - same as above.
FF3 - same as above, kind of.
FF4 - a real nice one! I like the humour, and the fact that almost every playable character dies.
FF5 - underrated. One of the best.
FF6 - without doubt the best FF-game ever, and one of the greatest in rpg-history!
FF7 - almost as great as FFVI. Dark, deep, cool characters, incredible plot. It's a classic.
FF8 - a dissapointment.
FF9 - cool, but not as good as VI and VII. MUCH better than VIII though.
FF10 - haven't played it that much, only 10-20 hours, but I didn't really enjoy those hours..
Tacticts - great game! Top 3-FF-game ever.

Seiken Densetsu III, Final Fantasy VI-VII, Suikoden I-III, Grandia and Chrono Trigger are the best rpg's ever. That's my opinion, however.  :D
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: ПФББЧ on September 28, 2004, 07:53:58 pm
VR, no theyre different.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: L'homme magique on September 28, 2004, 11:44:46 pm
Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest isn't even a Final Fantasy-game! Mystic Quest is the first Seiken Densetsu. Seiken Densetsu II is known as Secret of Mana in Europe, Seiken Densetsu IV as Legend of Mana.
All that to sound smart and you end up a total n00b.

MQ *is* an FF game. It was made by Square USA, under the Final Fantasy title, making it an FF game. You're thinking of FF Adventure that's Seiken Densetsu 1. They remade it for GBA recently as Sword of Mana.

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Seiken Densetsu III, Final Fantasy VI-VII, Suikoden I-III, Grandia and Chrono Trigger are the best rpg's ever. That's my opinion, however.
Your opinion blows. But that's just my opinion. :P
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Layson Juravis on September 29, 2004, 12:17:26 am


Seiken Densetsu III, Final Fantasy VI-VII, Suikoden I-III, Grandia and Chrono Trigger are the best rpg's ever. That's my opinion, however.  :D

Suikoden 1 and 2 for ever baby! Suikoden 3 was great until the ending... which was rushed due to the series creator leaving Konami.

Layson
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Boaz on September 29, 2004, 01:52:34 am
I was well liked, until I somehow wound up with five smites in a couple afternoons.. *shrugs*  Doesn't bug me, I'm not here to be loved...

Maybe the evil smiter just likes me..... I am a very likable person ^_^

Yeah, but we love you anyway ^_^ And we love Trezker too. Just goes to show that the love of the Machinae-ites cannot be broken by evil smitings!

sure u love eveeryone who talks to u except me! i should just go die somehwere! none of u would notice!

my suikoden game got stolen!!!:'( thta was a rocking game!
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Fallout on September 29, 2004, 12:08:15 pm
get a ROM :)
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: HarmonicDissonance on September 29, 2004, 08:20:30 pm
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All that to sound smart and you end up a total n00b.

MQ *is* an FF game. It was made by Square USA, under the Final Fantasy title, making it an FF game. You're thinking of FF Adventure that's Seiken Densetsu 1. They remade it for GBA recently as Sword of Mana.

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Seiken Densetsu III, Final Fantasy VI-VII, Suikoden I-III, Grandia and Chrono Trigger are the best rpg's ever. That's my opinion, however.
Your opinion blows. But that's just my opinion. :P

I sounded smart? Cool, but that was not my intention. I'll admit that I'm a jackass if I'm wrong, but I still believe that MQ is Seiken Densetsu I.. Until someone provesme wrong.. haha.  :P
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Smeagol on September 29, 2004, 09:53:06 pm
But...but....but.....

 :'(

Now I'm flawed.... ;_;
i no ur pain i ahd no smites until like last week! NOW LOOK AT ME!!!

look at me then :P if you can bear it of course ;D
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: L'homme magique on September 30, 2004, 12:32:21 am
Until someone provesme wrong.. haha.  :P
I just did. f00l.

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get a ROM
An ISO, you mean. >_> Same idea, different things.
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Fallout on September 30, 2004, 12:33:38 am
depends what console the games are for..
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: L'homme magique on September 30, 2004, 12:37:13 am
Suikoden's for PSX
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: Fallout on September 30, 2004, 12:49:50 am
ahaa. that would be an ISO then. my mistake :)
Title: Re:Which Final Fantasy?
Post by: MDX on September 30, 2004, 12:57:31 am
Mystic Quest. All the others were tripe (excluding 1-5 and Tactics :P) IMO.

TRIPE LOL! ahhh my granny says tripe.. priceless ;D