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The Band => Band Discussion => Topic started by: ftr2k5 on June 28, 2006, 02:33:08 pm
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Fro mthe front page, where the article about them is mentioned:
"If you also have the guts, among all the dungeons and dragons that otherwise occupy most of the lyrics space in metal, to write about a big teddybear who saves the world, you deserve respect".
Please explain? What song is this?
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I know this one. Super Steve? is he not a teddy?
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im a teddy :D
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I thought it was Oki Kuma...
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Oki is also a teddy i guess
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It's Oki.
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Wait, Oki Kuma isn't about a spice for curry dishes?
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I really don't understand where anyone gets the teddy bear reference :-X
besides in that review. :P
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Kuma is Japanese for bear
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Big Bear's Adventure if you translate it if I am not mistaken. Such a title may or may not suggest the inclusion of bear(s) in the song, teddy or not.
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Big Bear's Adventure if you translate it if I am not mistaken. Such a title may or may not suggest the inclusion of bear(s) in the song, teddy or not.
har!
how odd oO
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Big Bear in the Big Blue house? translate that! HA!
no actually do, please. Oki Kuma.. interesting
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Hehe, how interesting. I was unaware.
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i thought it was old bear...
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old bear would be 'furui kuma'
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That's awesome.
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Since this is all posted in romanized script of a hieroglyphic language, and there are many homophones/homonyms...
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Japanese has both phonetic and glyphic (hieroglyphs were used by Egyptians (hiero(s)-holy glyph(os?)-sign), the correct word is glyphic) writing, and has rather distinctive sounds that are fairly easy to transcribe to Roman letters (except for "ru" that's some kind of combination of "r" and "l").
It's worse with Chinese, which doesn't have a sign language, and has lots of sounds that are very different from those represented in the Roman alphabet.
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hieroglyphs were used by Egyptians (hiero(s)-holy glyph(os?)-sign), the correct word is glyphic
Oh no! We are dealing with words. Words can be interpreted in different ways. To some, hieroglyph == Egyptian writing, to others it means a system of using pictures/symbols as words.
My point was that there are some words that are romanized the same. For example: god/spirit, hair, paper. All are romanized as "kami."
In romanized writting, sometimes it might be easy to determin which is meant by context clues. In spoken form, many words that are written the same in romanization are pronounced with different intonations.
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[15:51] Totally, Definitely Not Fiindil (that fag): what does oki mean
[15:52] Totally, Definitely Not Fiindil (that fag): as in oki kuma
[15:52] P&G Ivory Soap: oki means big
[15:52] Totally, Definitely Not Fiindil (that fag): k
thread closed retsgo
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Fallout fails.
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what does fallout have to do with anything?
I mean, we all know he fails, but really
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Japanese has both phonetic and glyphic (hieroglyphs were used by Egyptians (hiero(s)-holy glyph(os?)-sign), the correct word is glyphic) writing, and has rather distinctive sounds that are fairly easy to transcribe to Roman letters (except for "ru" that's some kind of combination of "r" and "l").
It's worse with Chinese, which doesn't have a sign language, and has lots of sounds that are very different from those represented in the Roman alphabet.
The only sound in japanese I think people should have trouble with is "Fu" since its a mix of the sounds "fu" and "hu". It resembles the sound of blowing more than anything else imo. Like if you are trying to whistle and fuck up. All the other sounds used in japanese already exist in the swedish language atleast. What I dont understand is why americans have so much trouble with japanese pronounciation, but then again they have that problem with every other language in the world including english :(
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Americans have this bizarre instinct to put stresses on vowels unneccessarily. Hirohshiima. No! It\'s Hiroshima, you wazzaks.
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Fallout fails.
I'm watching you.
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Fallout fails.
I'm watching you.
FAIIIILINNGGG
IM FAAAAAAIIIILINGGG....
HAVE YOU EVER
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What I dont understand is why americans have so much trouble with japanese pronounciation, but then again they have that problem with every other language in the world including english :(
As far as i'm aware, we don't have much trouble with japanese, because yes, most sounds are the same thing. Perhaps americanized forms of words and names (like Hiroshima) are completely off, but that's not people actually trying to learn japanese.
however, we are certainly sadly pitifully bad at learning other languages.
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What I dont understand is why americans have so much trouble with japanese pronounciation, but then again they have that problem with every other language in the world including english :(
As far as i'm aware, we don't have much trouble with japanese, because yes, most sounds are the same thing. Perhaps americanized forms of words and names (like Hiroshima) are completely off, but that's not people actually trying to learn japanese.
however, we are certainly sadly pitifully bad at learning other languages.
Maybe you are right. I was just judging from the little japanese ive seen americans speak in movies, like Tom Cruise in The last Samurai. I mean if you are recording a movie for months in japan and you are still unable to pronounce the only 3 realy basic lines you have in japanese then something is wrong somewhere but maybe thats just Tom being a wierd Scientologist :p
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Or maybe that is how he was told to say it.
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Or maybe that is how he was told to say it.
by directors that are as dumb as him.
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Maybe you are right. I was just judging from the little japanese ive seen americans speak in movies, like Tom Cruise in The last Samurai. I mean if you are recording a movie for months in japan and you are still unable to pronounce the only 3 realy basic lines you have in japanese then something is wrong somewhere but maybe thats just Tom being a wierd Scientologist :p
Dont make fun of scientologists, they are out to get me and anyone who makes fun of them *puts tinfoil hat back on*. They murder people ;<
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