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Title: Machinae Newbie
Post by: seb835 on October 06, 2006, 05:46:04 pm
Hey all,

Just happend to stumble upon these guys through a random playing on the last.fm player! I cant believe there is a bad that uses the SID chip in their music, and in decent music too!

Anyway I think its great and will be buying the Deus Ex album shortly....whats the new Redeemer album like? Does it hae more SID samples in the tracks because that would be cool!

-Seb
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Krelian on October 06, 2006, 05:54:42 pm
Redeemer is a little less SID-based, but the track "Seventeen" has quite a bit of the sound.
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Lysix on October 06, 2006, 06:31:33 pm
Hey all,

Just happend to stumble upon these guys through a random playing on the last.fm player! I cant believe there is a bad that uses the SID chip in their music, and in decent music too!

Anyway I think its great and will be buying the Deus Ex album shortly....whats the new Redeemer album like? Does it hae more SID samples in the tracks because that would be cool!

-Seb

It has alot less.
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Drakonis on October 06, 2006, 06:52:28 pm
Hey all,

Just happend to stumble upon these guys through a random playing on the last.fm player! I cant believe there is a bad that uses the SID chip in their music, and in decent music too!

Anyway I think its great and will be buying the Deus Ex album shortly....whats the new Redeemer album like? Does it hae more SID samples in the tracks because that would be cool!

-Seb

To me, Redeemer still has alot of Sid but it's heavier in general. It's used as more of a support to the guitar, but it's defenitely there. If you like what you've heard, Redeemer is an excellent album and you'll enjoy it.

I loved Dues Ex Machinae, but I think I like Redeemer even more.

Both albums are worth every penny.
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Fensty on October 06, 2006, 07:00:38 pm
Hey all,

Just happend to stumble upon these guys through a random playing on the last.fm player! I cant believe there is a bad that uses the SID chip in their music, and in decent music too!

Anyway I think its great and will be buying the Deus Ex album shortly....whats the new Redeemer album like? Does it hae more SID samples in the tracks because that would be cool!

-Seb

It has alot less.

Not really, it's just less noticable. The stand alone SID from songs like Winterstorm and Killer Instinct is replaced by a suportive SID, which sounds more harmonious. That said, get every Masu album you can get, coz they all kick ass  ;D
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Irrationalist on October 08, 2006, 10:33:25 am
I actually preferred Deus Ex Machinae, but Redeemer is still my second favorite album in my 10+ gig (100 + albums and still growin) collection, if you want SiD go for Deus Ex Machinae, but Redeemer is still amazing about every song is amazing on both albums. But get the Underground for Redeemer, Kaori Stomp and Fury two of my favorite songs are non-existant on the Retail edition plus its twice as big, though Retail will have remastered Ghost (my favorite song).
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Lysix on October 08, 2006, 12:39:56 pm
Not really, it's just less noticable. The stand alone SID from songs like Winterstorm and Killer Instinct is replaced by a suportive SID, which sounds more harmonious. That said, get every Masu album you can get, coz they all kick ass  ;D

Yes, really. Compare DXM to Redeemer SiD wise. There is alot less.
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: seb835 on October 08, 2006, 01:59:22 pm
well ive bought both cds now, and I think there is just as much SID in redeemer if you listen hard enough.

best track so far has to be Oki Kuma's Adventure - i cant stop listening to it!!

 8)
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: evilcandybag on October 08, 2006, 10:30:53 pm
Much of the Synth in Redeemer is not SiD. You know, just because MaSu use SiD, it doesn't mean they're limited to just that.
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Irrationalist on October 09, 2006, 02:59:13 am
Much of the Synth in Redeemer is not SiD. You know, just because MaSu use SiD, it doesn't mean they're limited to just that.

This is very true, I love Redeemer like a child, but I want the next album to be more Deus Ex Machinae - esque.
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: PrescriptiveBarony on October 09, 2006, 05:27:10 am
Well it has been said that they're going to focus more on SID and less on alternate synth/effects.
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: evilcandybag on October 09, 2006, 03:12:11 pm
Yeah. Personally, I'm hoping for something like a MaSu-ised FLAK with more varied rythms, filled to the brim with extremely aggressive SiD.
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Ratti on October 09, 2006, 03:44:43 pm
And I'm hoping for a progrock/metal epic with 20-minutes-longtracks, mellotron and flute solos (well okay, i'd survive without the flute solos), but what's the chance for that? ^^
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Fallout on October 09, 2006, 04:52:11 pm
Rob's already confirmed the songs will be:
 
1- Less "epic" due to the clearer sound
2- Heavier
3- Less SiD noticable in most songs, but there will be 1 or 2 SiD-based tracks.

This is from memory of irc, so correct me if i'm wrong.
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Irrationalist on October 09, 2006, 07:31:19 pm
Less SiD makes me very sad, but heavier sounds good (I like it either way).

MORE SiD PLZ!!!
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: cloudstrifex on October 09, 2006, 07:51:31 pm
Sex pls
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Irrationalist on October 09, 2006, 07:54:11 pm
Naw, your a man, man. Ask Iggman.....
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Bates on October 10, 2006, 12:18:51 am
Machinae Supremacy - Sultans of SID (Dire Straits Cover feat. Mark Knopfler)

please?
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: WereVolvo on October 10, 2006, 12:37:17 am
Machinae Supremacy - Sultans of SID (Dire Straits Cover feat. Mark Knopfler)

please?
<3
oh my god yes PLEASE!

I love you for even suggesting it, Bates.

Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Crazywater on October 10, 2006, 12:51:33 am
Rob's already confirmed the songs will be:
 
1- Less "epic" due to the clearer sound
2- Heavier
3- Less SiD noticable in most songs, but there will be 1 or 2 SiD-based tracks.

This is from memory of irc, so correct me if i'm wrong.
What? I thought rob was saying something about a tiny little "wee bit" softer and more SiD but less other synths? ???
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: mumppis on October 10, 2006, 12:55:09 am
next album will have

1) More SID
2) They will cut down synth sounds use more SID's

this is what rob has said :)

fallout you need to sleep yous seeing to much illusions :)
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: cloudstrifex on October 10, 2006, 01:00:45 am
next album will have

1) More SID
2) They will cut down synth sounds use more SID's

this is what rob has said :)

fallout you need to sleep yous seeing to much illusions :)

Listen to mummpis he knows what he's talking about he's got connections with the band. :D
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: mumppis on October 10, 2006, 01:03:08 am
well actually a part what fallout said was right also :)
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: cloudstrifex on October 10, 2006, 01:11:32 am
Yeah but I don't think Rob said there'd be less SID so I quoted you instead. ;) Is it wrong if I quote you? :'(
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: cloudstrifex on October 10, 2006, 01:30:25 am
Sorry for the double post but I found 2 quotes that help. (Both from Robert)

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We have decided we want a "dryer" sound on our third album. That means basically less effects on everything, less reverbs, delays and such effects, and a closer, in-your-face dryness to guitars, drums, vocals... the works. This sound may make some songs less "epic" than on Redeemer, but what they lose there will be gained by intensity and attitude.

Quote
It means more sid than on Redeemer, and less other-style synths. :)

So I think it's safe to say that if there's more SID than on Redeemer then this will be a SID-arific album. :)
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Fallout on October 10, 2006, 04:10:33 am
EDIT: This version is out of date, see: http://forum.machinaesupremacy.com/index.php?topic=3962.msg140660#msg140660
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: cloudstrifex on October 10, 2006, 04:13:47 am
Good job Fallout! You get another IOU from me! :)
Title: Re: Machinae Newbie
Post by: Fallout on October 10, 2006, 04:49:19 am
http://forum.machinaesupremacy.com/index.php?topic=3962.msg140660#msg140660