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Voting closed: March 22, 2008, 09:24:11 pm

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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2008, 11:49:36 pm »
Oh, actually, I was consideringen the staggering possibility that there are more Machinae Supremacy fans than there are people registered on this forum.

you mean there are more of our kind..out there?
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i think you should just drop the .ogg format support entirely. but refics download stats may give you reasons not to!

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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2008, 12:31:16 am »
Oh, I care a great deal what you guys think. That is why I ask. But I thought I should share the reason I asked, as well.

What happens depends on how people reacts. How do you think we started providing oggs in the first place? Someone suggested it and we thought it was a good idea. But now, years later, it still seems like OGG isn't really picking up speed.

FLAC seems like a more promising format, if are to invest time and resources in more than mp3. But I haven't decided yet, I need input on the matter.

if you started providing the webography in FLAC, I'd fall down on my knees and worship you (well, more than I already do, at least... if that's even possible)
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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2008, 01:07:46 am »
Its always just more valuable to go with the default. It can be alot or work maintaining an mp3 collection and finding indie or rare stuff in that format let alone in ogg flac or any other odd lil format. The benefits of a lil better compression or lil bette sound quality is not enough TO ME to justify using a non-standard format (any format that isnt one of the top three)

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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2008, 03:00:47 am »
As for quality, I don't really think one sounds better than the other, albeit they do sound _different_ from one another.

So, when's the last time you listened to a 64kbit mp3 vs a 64kbit vorbis?

Vorbis for teh wins. I encode everything in vorbis, and I pick my hardware based on that.

Vorbis is just better technically, and you don't feel all dirty for supporting the software patent monsters that are Fraunhofer and Thomson.
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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2008, 06:55:00 am »
I care about ogg. I think you should keep the oggs on the page.

I would prefer FLAC. I think you should offer FLACs on the page. FLACs are unfeasible for (f/ht)tp download, however.

Solution: torrents.

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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2008, 02:14:13 pm »
I care about ogg. I think you should keep the oggs on the page.

I would prefer FLAC. I think you should offer FLACs on the page. FLACs are unfeasible for (f/ht)tp download, however.

Solution: torrents.


That is a great idea. :)
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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2008, 02:26:23 pm »
I care about ogg. I think you should keep the oggs on the page.

I would prefer FLAC. I think you should offer FLACs on the page. FLACs are unfeasible for (f/ht)tp download, however.

Solution: torrents.


That is a great idea. :)

I agree. :)
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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2008, 07:22:14 pm »
I care about ogg. I think you should keep the oggs on the page.

I would prefer FLAC. I think you should offer FLACs on the page. FLACs are unfeasible for (f/ht)tp download, however.

Solution: torrents.


That is a great idea. :)

I agree. :)

Agree.

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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2008, 07:52:35 pm »
Remember that not everyone can use p2p. It makes a lot of UDP/TCP traffic, so some admins (like me) block it to prevent router hangups.

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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2008, 08:01:19 pm »
Remember that not everyone can use p2p. It makes a lot of UDP/TCP traffic, so some admins (like me) block it to prevent router hangups.

I fail to see how that matters.

If people want mp3s, and gives a rat's ass about something other than it, then let them have their MP3s.

If people want something other than mp3, like, oh I don't know, FLACs in a torrent, then why not should they have to only get mp3s?

We don't want to remove the mp3s or make them torrent only. We only want a chance to get something better than mp3. And if it's to big for conventional methods, like hosting them locally, then P2P is probably the best choice.
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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2008, 08:13:11 pm »
If people want something other than mp3, like, oh I don't know, FLACs in a torrent, then why not should they have to only get mp3s?

Because they can't download it using torrent. That's kinda unfair to non-p2p people, but I guess hosting sites like rapidshare or whatever could be put in use for those files too.

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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2008, 08:30:40 pm »
If people want something other than mp3, like, oh I don't know, FLACs in a torrent, then why not should they have to only get mp3s?

Because they can't download it using torrent. That's kinda unfair to non-p2p people, but I guess hosting sites like rapidshare or whatever could be put in use for those files too.

You know how big a simple FLAC file can become... don't you? Rapidshare a FLAC file, and you'll spend alot of unneeded time. :/

And also, abandoning every other format except MP3 is unfair to the people who wants the other formats, don't you think?
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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2008, 09:20:49 pm »
My opinion: I care more for FLAC than I do for Ogg.

I don't have many oggs, and I'll probably not get the rest either. I do like the idea of a free standard, though.

So, when's the last time you listened to a 64kbit mp3 vs a 64kbit vorbis?

A more important question would be "when was the last time you listened to anything in 64kbit"?
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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2008, 09:46:13 pm »
So, when's the last time you listened to a 64kbit mp3 vs a 64kbit vorbis?

A more important question would be "when was the last time you listened to anything in 64kbit"?

The EVE Online soundtrack extracted from the game is 54kbps Ogg Vorbis.
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Re: Who the f--k cares about OGG?
« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2008, 11:12:12 pm »
Remember that not everyone can use p2p. It makes a lot of UDP/TCP traffic, so some admins (like me) block it to prevent router hangups.

thats because you're scrooge!
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