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Sheet Music
« on: June 04, 2007, 02:08:38 am »
I've recently been trying to learn to read sheet music.

I found this site: http://www.8notes.com/theory/
that is proving to be quite excellent.

but I still have to take a pen and start at G and tap down or up counting out the notes to see which one is on which line.
is there any technique I can use to build my recognition of the notes?

I remember beign able to do it back in music class in high school, but can't seem to remember how

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 02:19:41 am »
Hmm i never learnt to read sheet music, everything i play/know is from memory

but my old music teacher gave me some useful tips which proved helpful

for the treble - FACE in between the lines (i always remembered that by shouting "your mum's face!" back at him when he said it)
                  - Every Good Boy Deserves Frugs for the lines (Frugs are obviously fun drugs)

FCGDAEB (Father Christmas Goes Down All Elevators Backwards from left to right and starting with none is how many sharps a key has)

BEADGCF (Bread Eaten After Dinner Gives Curious Feelings from left to right and starting with none is how many flats a key has)

Other than that the longer you do it the more it becomes reading sheet music like a book, i just never got to that stage
But if one day we meet together while I'm drunk, I promise you to draw a big group sex picture including a lot of forumites. :D

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2007, 02:24:12 am »
Hmm i never learnt to read sheet music, everything i play/know is from memory

but my old music teacher gave me some useful tips which proved helpful

for the treble - FACE in between the lines (i always remembered that by shouting "your mum's face!" back at him when he said it)
                  - Every Good Boy Deserves Frugs for the lines (Frugs are obviously fun drugs)

FCGDAEB (Father Christmas Goes Down All Elevators Backwards from left to right and starting with none is how many sharps a key has)

BEADGCF (Bread Eaten After Dinner Gives Curious Feelings from left to right and starting with none is how many flats a key has)

Other than that the longer you do it the more it becomes reading sheet music like a book, i just never got to that stage


oooh!
the silly sentence tricks, yes!
I forgot about those entirely.
I knew there was some trick to it.

Thanks Lion ;D

I love how those sentences never make any sense while being perfectly grammatical.
they're great.

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 02:27:06 am »
Well i just hope you find more use for them than i did ;)


I failed to mention the bass section trick because i don't remember ;x
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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2007, 02:57:57 am »
Well i just hope you find more use for them than i did ;)


I failed to mention the bass section trick because i don't remember ;x

treble is all I need for now ;)

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2007, 03:29:57 am »
I used the method you're doing now, until eventually i just memorised the entire stave. :)

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2007, 04:53:22 pm »
Also for key signatures, if you are ever wondering the order of sharps.


Father Christmas Gave Dan an Empty Box.

For flats?

Box Empty an Dan Gave Christmas Father. obviously.

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2007, 02:34:55 am »
this sheet music reading business is rather frustrating =(

I can't seem to progress any.

does anyone know of any good exercises?
I can find the note easily now... but I can't even come close to playing smoothly.
I have to memorize the note, not recognize it.

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2007, 06:49:29 am »
I can read sheet music pretty easy now because I was forced to do it. Well, I was a music major, that's like 7 days a week of reading music.

I honestly think there's no easy way to read sheet music other than exercise reading it regularly. The abbreviation sure help, but you still have to routinely read sheet music. I recommend at least do it every other day.

I assume you are learning to play an instrument at the same time. I don't see the point of reading sheet music if you don't play anything.

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2007, 10:10:56 pm »
I assume you are learning to play an instrument at the same time. I don't see the point of reading sheet music if you don't play anything.

haha, yes.
the fiddle.
I want to learn new songs without doing it by ear.. i'm not good enough to figure out more complicated songs by ear yet.

I guess i'll just gruel through it until I get GOOD.
yar!

but, would you recommend just constantly trying to play it?
or should I just try reading through and identifying each note?

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 09:34:54 am »
Nice! That is awesome. I should've learned fiddle instead of piano. I remember my music teacher said "I always have students come to me proudly saying 'I taught myself piano/guitar/drums'. I've never had anyone come to me and said 'I taught myself violin/saxophone/trumpet'"

Anyway, I recommend you do the practice each bar one by one. Don't try to go through the music from beginning straight to the end, because you will feel frustrated and make the music seems impossible to learn.

Focus on the first bar. Read the notes first and identify them, and then play it. Again, just do that one bar over and over again. When you can play one bar throughly without making mistake and feel comfortable about it, move to the next bar and do the same thing.

Actually listening by ear helps a lot. If you know what the music sound like, it would makes more sense when you practice it.

Edit: Is there any particular piece that you're learning right now?
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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 12:31:56 pm »
Nice! That is awesome. I should've learned fiddle instead of piano. I remember my music teacher said "I always have students come to me proudly saying 'I taught myself piano/guitar/drums'. I've never had anyone come to me and said 'I taught myself violin/saxophone/trumpet'"

Anyway, I recommend you do the practice each bar one by one. Don't try to go through the music from beginning straight to the end, because you will feel frustrated and make the music seems impossible to learn.

Focus on the first bar. Read the notes first and identify them, and then play it. Again, just do that one bar over and over again. When you can play one bar throughly without making mistake and feel comfortable about it, move to the next bar and do the same thing.

Actually listening by ear helps a lot. If you know what the music sound like, it would makes more sense when you practice it.

Edit: Is there any particular piece that you're learning right now?

thanks Dayak, you are the helpful to me :).
and yes, I am currently learning this (amongst others, but I got the farthest in this one)

I also have sheet music printed for the super mario bros theme.

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2007, 08:21:08 am »
No problem. Have fun!  :)

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2007, 11:51:44 pm »
I've been having similar difficulties recently, luckily the songs ive been tryign to learn from sheet music have been fairly simple folk tunes.

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Re: Sheet Music
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2007, 03:43:12 am »
I've progressed significantly since I last posted here ;D

I am now reading sheet music with what I can only say is a "passable" level.

I have also learned more about different kinds of things about sheet music... Key signatures and stuff like that.

I'm got over a major hump I was working on for awhile... not being able to read sheet music and not being able to make the song sound like it should was really kicking me in the balls.

but I'm quite happy with my current standing ;)

Sheet music really does become quite like reading anything else once you get used to it ;)