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« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2007, 05:40:00 am »
why, oh why, did this thread turn into a religeon discussion? I didn't see any possible way our famous relatives could lead to this...

also, it is exponential, because logarithmic would mean their growth rate would decrease over time. Cells start multiplying faster because theirs more of them as time goes on (unless something else stunts their growth in some fashion) hence comes exponential growth.
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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2007, 05:59:22 am »
why, oh why, did this thread turn into a religeon discussion? I didn't see any possible way our famous relatives could lead to this...

also, it is exponential, because logarithmic would mean their growth rate would decrease over time. Cells start multiplying faster because theirs more of them as time goes on (unless something else stunts their growth in some fashion) hence comes exponential growth.

Because anything related to origins has to be tied into religion by someone. <<

And all righty, then. Didnuh know logarithmic would be decreasing. So yeah, then someone figure out the exponential equation for bacteria increasing underwater.

But isn't the dB system logarithmic? And that increases (every three decibels is twice as loud). I need to know.  :(

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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2007, 11:37:52 am »
why, oh why, did this thread turn into a religeon discussion? I didn't see any possible way our famous relatives could lead to this...

I'm related to Jesus. Suck it.

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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2007, 02:00:12 pm »
The comet doesn't cause, it just brings. Unless..

could be some chemical chain reaction or whatever. also, again the details were not really the point, the point was that it could have been some sudden global change that caused life (sudden with respect to the time-scale of lifeform spread), possibly leading to simultaneous evolution at multiple spots, or some local change/ event, in which case all life could descend from the same thing...

or something.

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Re: Evolution and Bible
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2007, 02:34:52 pm »
Gravehill just split the topic like space and time
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Re: Evolution and Bible
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2007, 05:23:39 pm »
I'm related to Jesus. Suck it.

That'd be cool on many levels.






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Re: Evolution and Bible
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2007, 06:03:58 pm »
I think he speaks of Adam and Eve

How likely is it that we all branched from the same single-celled organism, though? I find it hard to believe that there'd only be one in an entire ocean, if the conditions were right for that one to form and then multiply-evolve-multiply-evolve-etc. What's to say there weren't two, or three, or fifty million cells that all grew in the water at the same time but didn't come from the same single cell?

the probability is small... but the universe is a magnifcently massive place... if the probability is there at all, it'l happen somewhere... We are where it happened.

I highly encourage all of you to read this: http://images.ucomics.com/images/pdfs/sadams/godsdebris.pdf
It's a very compeling and interesting read... only 144 pages.
a lot of you just won't touch this... but try at least to read the first 2-3 chapters.. it won't take much time.

edit: don't skip over the introduction... it's good.
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Re: Evolution and Bible
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2007, 06:34:38 pm »
I'm related to Jesus. Suck it.

That'd be cool on many levels.






IF he existed.


There are plenty of non-Christian documents from that era that claim Jesus existed.  :P Saying Jesus didn't exist is like saying Mohammad didn't exist. It's not whether he existed that should be questioned; it's whether or not he was a deity.
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Re: Evolution and Bible
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2007, 08:02:18 pm »
There are plenty of non-Christian documents from that era that claim Jesus existed.

"Claim" being the operative word. :)

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« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2007, 08:03:05 pm »
I used the wrong word. -Report- Jesus existed.
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Re: Evolution and Bible
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2007, 08:05:01 pm »
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Re: Evolution and Bible
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2007, 08:11:23 pm »
I used the wrong word. -Report- Jesus existed.

Many have also reported to of seen UFOs.

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Re: Evolution and Bible
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2007, 08:15:38 pm »
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"Claim" being the operative word.
Okay, so:

A) Siddhartha Gautama didn't exist because he became a religious figure.
B) Mohammed didn't exist because he became a religious figure.
C) Zoroaster didn't exist because he became a religious figure.
D) Because he is a religious figure, the pope does not exist.
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Re: Evolution and Bible
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2007, 08:18:57 pm »
I'm related to Jesus. Suck it.

That'd be cool on many levels.
IF he existed.


That postion is just as hard to uphold if not harder than if he did exist. Though I'm an Atheist, I do not Jesus's existance but rather say that his existance was that of a man, not the son of a omnipotent diety. He may not of existed, but it is better to say that what he did was false, rather than the person.

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Re: Evolution and Bible
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2007, 08:22:29 pm »
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"Claim" being the operative word.
Okay, so:

A) Siddhartha Gautama didn't exist because he became a religious figure.
B) Mohammed didn't exist because he became a religious figure.
C) Zoroaster didn't exist because he became a religious figure.
D) Because he is a religious figure, the pope does not exist.

If theres proof, solid proof, then i'll believe "jesus" existed. Then, show proof of the supposed miracles he performed. Chances are, this guy was a nobody who was nothing. Son of a virgin? Yeah, right.