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« on: January 17, 2007, 02:55:36 pm »
I think he speaks of Adam and Eve
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2007, 03:35:40 pm »
I think he speaks of Adam and Eve
Damn, I did fumble that quote seriously. I was thinking something and wrote something completely different. That's what happens when you try to do something while you're mind is somewhere else... Wandering.

Anyways, my original thought was related to my spiral theory. There will be better and hopefully more specific and understandable version of it. I just have to write it. You'll see if you're ready to read through mountain of text. While that project is under way I would suggest watching these documents might be good idea. They are related to genealogy and ancestry. They were rather interesting and thought provoking IMO.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/ghostgenes.shtml

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373595/
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2007, 08:03:31 pm »
I think he speaks of Adam and Eve

How likely is it that we all branched from the same single-celled organism, though? I find it hard to believe that there'd only be one in an entire ocean, if the conditions were right for that one to form and then multiply-evolve-multiply-evolve-etc. What's to say there weren't two, or three, or fifty million cells that all grew in the water at the same time but didn't come from the same single cell?
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2007, 08:05:35 pm »
What's to say there weren't two, or three, or fifty million cells that all grew in the water at the same time but didn't come from the same single cell?

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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2007, 08:07:49 pm »
What's to say there weren't two, or three, or fifty million cells that all grew in the water at the same time but didn't come from the same single cell?

Everything starts from somewhere, right? Has to be one single thing?

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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2007, 08:16:52 pm »
What's to say there weren't two, or three, or fifty million cells that all grew in the water at the same time but didn't come from the same single cell?

Everything starts from somewhere, right? Has to be one single thing?

If you want to go back far enough, I suppose. "Big bang" and whatnot. But in terms of lifeforms? The earth was covered with a pretty vast ocean, and if the conditions were right for one cell to form from the primordial ooze, it seems like it'd be enough to form multitudes of cells at the same time.
That's the problem with heroes, really. Their only purpose in life is to thwart others. They make no plans, develop no strategies. They react instead of act. Without villains, heroes would stagnate. Without heroes, villains would be running the world. Heroes have morals. Villains have work ethic.

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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2007, 08:38:20 pm »
If you want to go back far enough, I suppose. "Big bang" and whatnot. But in terms of lifeforms? The earth was covered with a pretty vast ocean, and if the conditions were right for one cell to form from the primordial ooze, it seems like it'd be enough to form multitudes of cells at the same time.

Unless we time machine is built i guess we'll never know. :)

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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2007, 08:42:52 pm »
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saying teh bible denies evolution is bad theology
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2007, 08:53:52 pm »
If you want to go back far enough, I suppose. "Big bang" and whatnot. But in terms of lifeforms? The earth was covered with a pretty vast ocean, and if the conditions were right for one cell to form from the primordial ooze, it seems like it'd be enough to form multitudes of cells at the same time.

Unless we time machine is built i guess we'll never know. :)

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Indeed. The story of creation is meant as more of story than a factual account.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2007, 09:10:12 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2007, 09:32:13 pm »
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2007, 09:59:30 pm »
Indeed. The story of creation is meant as more of story than a factual account.

says who...

If you want to go back far enough, I suppose. "Big bang" and whatnot. But in terms of lifeforms? The earth was covered with a pretty vast ocean, and if the conditions were right for one cell to form from the primordial ooze, it seems like it'd be enough to form multitudes of cells at the same time.

Well, probably both possibilities are... possible...

I think it depends under which conditions life formed, and why. And on how the rate of spread compares to the probability of emergence of life. I could imagine two different scenarios (or anything in between):

1. Life emerged because of a sudden change of global conditions (comet struck, sudden temperature change, etc.). Then it might originate on multiple spots at (approximately) the same time.

2. The emergence of life was a rather improbable event. Maybe conditions on earth even didn't change over millions of years, then suddenly something happened locally (small comet hit the ocean, at the same time being hit by lighting... whatever), and life emerged at that spot. Maybe it would take again millions of years for that special event to happen again, but until then life has already spread over the planet.

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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2007, 10:20:52 pm »
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saying teh bible denies evolution is bad theology

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I'm not bible bashing.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2007, 10:57:58 pm »
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saying teh bible denies evolution is bad theology

Indeed. The story of creation is meant as more of story than a factual account.

No it isn't. The bible is the holy book of Christianity and therefore is the factual account about how we came to be in this world, for Christians anyway.

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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2007, 11:09:32 pm »
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saying teh bible denies evolution is bad theology

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I'm not bible bashing.

However, Lysix(?) was. I was merely providing support in my own unique way. Namely, failing at being a prick.