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Re: Our Future
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2007, 05:43:51 pm »

This bombing attack actually killed 90% of the population of Nauru.

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Re: Our Future
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2007, 04:38:29 am »
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! my people! and their precious, precious phosphates!


Magicman has a point. unfortunately, it's a useless point to make. people should go experience tragedy and injustice before they care about it or it doesn't count?

There is something to be said of course for educating oneself about the issues in a manner other than listening to bill o'reilly, but there is also a need to appeal to the masses. most of us don't want to bother putting time and effort into understanding any given issue, but if we all agree, even passively, then the world or at least the local environment will change. You can go out and donate money to all the charities and Save Darfur organizations you want, but as long as there are still people who honestly think they're working for some reasonable purpose by raping and pillaging, and that they can get away with it, it's a futile battle. we attempt (lamely) to address the symptoms, but very very rarely even notice the root of problems, because it's so elusive and impossible to control; thought. how do you attempt to change thought instead of getting guilty americans to send 50 cents a day to ethiopia? you have one hour. begin.


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Re: Our Future
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2007, 04:41:30 am »
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people should go experience tragedy and injustice before they care about it or it doesn't count?
well, yes

and I realize your point that my point is silly, but it has always bothered me when people tell me crap like "I JUST GOT OUT OF AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH YOU HAVE TO SEE IT IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES".

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how do you attempt to change thought instead of getting guilty americans to send 50 cents a day to ethiopia? you have one hour. begin.
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Re: Our Future
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2007, 05:10:02 am »
"until ethiopia is saved america will be pornless"


thaaaaaaaaat could work.

brilliant.

and no that wasn't a goddamn reference to a goddamn beer commercial. it was just a word. fuck off.

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Re: Our Future
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2007, 06:44:08 am »
I don't have any hurry to change others. I have so many things to improve in my own life. Why to tell others that they should do something to environment and do nothing personally? Change starts on your own life, on your own backyard. Sure, talking about these matters is important. But there is little that one can do globally. Changes starts locally. "Think green", that's something I try to do constantly. I try to consume in moderation because consuming is what consumes environment. So I try to consume as little as I can, with consideration. It was surprise to me to notice that consuming does not mean life standard. One can cut lot without losing an inch of life standard. There's so much vanities in our lives. Recycling, reusing materials, getting only things you will use for years (avoiding disposable things), buying locally produced food & stuff and getting only things you want most, that's what I try to do. And I will be trying to transfer these values to my son (next generation). Change is slow but if enough people are doing personal choices companies have to adapt to new situation and produce more environment friendly products. Politicians have to do more environmental decisions (because that's what their voters want) and so on. It's only small piece of nature that one can safe with personal choices. It's still important small piece and if people will think more these things we may have some hope. There's much damage done and shit is going to hit the fan but we must try to safe what's possible. That way we will lose much but not all.
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Re: Our Future
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2007, 07:12:33 pm »
I don't have any hurry to change others. I have so many things to improve in my own life.

Such as cutting your post off here. I mean, come on, walls of text, if they say something of substance are great. If they loop back on themselves, why bother?

I realize your point that my point is silly, but it has always bothered me when people tell me crap like "I JUST GOT OUT OF AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH YOU HAVE TO SEE IT IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES".

If it's what it takes the get the mindless masses to shift themselves, fine.

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Re: Our Future
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2007, 08:03:22 pm »
I don't have any hurry to change others. I have so many things to improve in my own life.

Such as cutting your post off here. I mean, come on, walls of text, if they say something of substance are great. If they loop back on themselves, why bother?

I realize your point that my point is silly, but it has always bothered me when people tell me crap like "I JUST GOT OUT OF AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH YOU HAVE TO SEE IT IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES".

If it's what it takes the get the mindless masses to shift themselves, fine.

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Re: Our Future
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2007, 11:05:42 pm »
Oh where are the times when someone would just answer with a simple k?

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Re: Our Future
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2007, 11:10:30 pm »
So we should become China?  Where it's lillegal to spit on the sidewalk and girls and kidnapped and forced into marrages because they're the minority?

I'm not disagreeing that the world is fucked up, but we're going to have a plague take care of it for us.  You realize that it was pure blind LUCK that prevented a e.boli breakout in the US?  That's the one that kills you in like 3 days by liquifying your organs.

We already have plagues that are takign thier tole, the equilabrum has been broken.  It's only a matter of time until we have one of apolopicital (to coin a word) scale.


I worry, trust me, I worry, I worry for my 3 year old neice and the kind of world I'll leave behind for her... I worry a lot about the future.

But worrying does jack crap, unless we can do something.

And what can you do?  The men in power are intent on one thing and one thing only.. $$$

I just saw Children of Men http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwsgkurfCjE and now I'm pissed off.  We, as a whole, need to get our act together.  Our world leaders need to start acting RIGHT NOW to stop our world from collapsing.  Inn 2008, America needs to elect a completly radical president who is willing to sacrifice freedoms for the good of the world.  Right now, George Bush has complete control over the country.  The media is afraid to speak against him, and he is getting away with shit nobody else would come close to.  The part that pisses me off the most is that people like me, who want change NOW!!!!, cant do anything about it because all of the fucking right-wing nutjobs would shut us down.
  At first, I felt angry.  Then I felt disgust.  Now i just feel pity and remorse for what we are doing to ourselves.  Americans are unwilling to give up their freedoms like SUV's in order to save the planet.  It's disturbing.  Americans now-a-days don't see the real ideas of freedom that our founding fathers invisioned.  They see freedom as the ability to watch TV when they like and drive oversised cars.  As long as that is the mindset, the government can do whatever they want, and thats exactly whats happening.  Don't get me wrong, I'm speaking about my own country.  We're fucking idiots.  FUCKING IDIOTS, and theres nothing I can do about it.  Please tell me someone else feels the same way.
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Re: Our Future
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2007, 11:11:58 pm »
So we should become China?  Where it's lillegal to spit on the sidewalk and girls and kidnapped and forced into marrages because they're the minority?

I'm not disagreeing that the world is fucked up, but we're going to have a plague take care of it for us.  You realize that it was pure blind LUCK that prevented a e.boli breakout in the US?  That's the one that kills you in like 3 days by liquifying your organs.

We already have plagues that are takign thier tole, the equilabrum has been broken.  It's only a matter of time until we have one of apolopicital (to coin a word) scale.


I worry, trust me, I worry, I worry for my 3 year old neice and the kind of world I'll leave behind for her... I worry a lot about the future.

But worrying does jack crap, unless we can do something.

And what can you do?  The men in power are intent on one thing and one thing only.. $$$

I just saw Children of Men http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwsgkurfCjE and now I'm pissed off.  We, as a whole, need to get our act together.  Our world leaders need to start acting RIGHT NOW to stop our world from collapsing.  Inn 2008, America needs to elect a completly radical president who is willing to sacrifice freedoms for the good of the world.  Right now, George Bush has complete control over the country.  The media is afraid to speak against him, and he is getting away with shit nobody else would come close to.  The part that pisses me off the most is that people like me, who want change NOW!!!!, cant do anything about it because all of the fucking right-wing nutjobs would shut us down.
  At first, I felt angry.  Then I felt disgust.  Now i just feel pity and remorse for what we are doing to ourselves.  Americans are unwilling to give up their freedoms like SUV's in order to save the planet.  It's disturbing.  Americans now-a-days don't see the real ideas of freedom that our founding fathers invisioned.  They see freedom as the ability to watch TV when they like and drive oversised cars.  As long as that is the mindset, the government can do whatever they want, and thats exactly whats happening.  Don't get me wrong, I'm speaking about my own country.  We're fucking idiots.  FUCKING IDIOTS, and theres nothing I can do about it.  Please tell me someone else feels the same way.

Oh where are the times when someone would just answer with a simple k?

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Re: Our Future
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2007, 03:24:24 am »
So we should become China?  Where it's lillegal to spit on the sidewalk and girls and kidnapped and forced into marrages because they're the minority?

I'm not disagreeing that the world is fucked up, but we're going to have a plague take care of it for us.  You realize that it was pure blind LUCK that prevented a e.boli breakout in the US?  That's the one that kills you in like 3 days by liquifying your organs.

We already have plagues that are takign thier tole, the equilabrum has been broken.  It's only a matter of time until we have one of apolopicital (to coin a word) scale.


I worry, trust me, I worry, I worry for my 3 year old neice and the kind of world I'll leave behind for her... I worry a lot about the future.

But worrying does jack crap, unless we can do something.

And what can you do?  The men in power are intent on one thing and one thing only.. $$$

I just saw Children of Men http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwsgkurfCjE and now I'm pissed off.  We, as a whole, need to get our act together.  Our world leaders need to start acting RIGHT NOW to stop our world from collapsing.  Inn 2008, America needs to elect a completly radical president who is willing to sacrifice freedoms for the good of the world.  Right now, George Bush has complete control over the country.  The media is afraid to speak against him, and he is getting away with shit nobody else would come close to.  The part that pisses me off the most is that people like me, who want change NOW!!!!, cant do anything about it because all of the fucking right-wing nutjobs would shut us down.
  At first, I felt angry.  Then I felt disgust.  Now i just feel pity and remorse for what we are doing to ourselves.  Americans are unwilling to give up their freedoms like SUV's in order to save the planet.  It's disturbing.  Americans now-a-days don't see the real ideas of freedom that our founding fathers invisioned.  They see freedom as the ability to watch TV when they like and drive oversised cars.  As long as that is the mindset, the government can do whatever they want, and thats exactly whats happening.  Don't get me wrong, I'm speaking about my own country.  We're fucking idiots.  FUCKING IDIOTS, and theres nothing I can do about it.  Please tell me someone else feels the same way.

I think the best most people can do is NOT contribute to the problems... stop being too damn lazy to carry that piece of garbage for 2 more minutes until you get to a garbage can.
get a real job instead of one at a call center selling a plan specificaly created to screw people over.
don't join the military just because of the money.

etc.. etc..

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Re: Our Future
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2007, 10:37:16 pm »
So we should become China?  Where it's lillegal to spit on the sidewalk and girls and kidnapped and forced into marrages because they're the minority?

I know that it doesn't fit the topic but I don't think that girls are the minority in China. They are treated (right word? sounds... strange) inferior I think. But girls are (like in India I think) unwanted as a child, but there are many girls that are born which is not good for the family and (most important) not good for the girls themselves.
(I don't tell the rest because I think you know it; my point was only that there are many girls there, so they aren't a minority.)

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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2007, 02:32:24 pm »
Actually, you're wrong.

The combination of traditional preference for boys and the one-child policy has created a large imbalance in the sex ratios at birth. Sex-selective abortion is, or at least was before the ban on it, common. Sex-selective infanticide did and does also occur, but I suppose abandonment is the most usual way of doing it today (evidenced by the fact that about 95% of children in chinese orphanages are girls, and completely healthy ones at that).
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Re: Our Future
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2007, 02:57:14 pm »
Hmmm. I might adopt a chinese schoolgirl >:3

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Re: Our Future
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2007, 04:03:22 pm »
Actually, you're wrong.

The combination of traditional preference for boys and the one-child policy has created a large imbalance in the sex ratios at birth. Sex-selective abortion is, or at least was before the ban on it, common. Sex-selective infanticide did and does also occur, but I suppose abandonment is the most usual way of doing it today (evidenced by the fact that about 95% of children in chinese orphanages are girls, and completely healthy ones at that).

Ok, you're right, abortion of girls is often (and the rest). I give up ;)

So... did I destroy the thread now? (Nobody seems to write about the world's future problems any more. )