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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #75 on: September 29, 2006, 12:22:54 pm »
well, ok, that thursday example doesn't help. I need to know it in a maths context. How about this:

"the probability that a thrown die reads a 1 is 1/6"

hm, but I see your point. I assume this one is correct:

"When a die is thrown, the probabilty that it will yield a 1 is 1/6".

hm, on the other hand.. but at least this one:

"Assume I throw a die. The probability that I will get a 1 is 1/6."

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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #76 on: September 29, 2006, 05:09:20 pm »
Those all look fine to me.
That's the problem with heroes, really. Their only purpose in life is to thwart others. They make no plans, develop no strategies. They react instead of act. Without villains, heroes would stagnate. Without heroes, villains would be running the world. Heroes have morals. Villains have work ethic.

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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2006, 08:51:35 pm »
Seconded.


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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #78 on: September 29, 2006, 09:21:45 pm »
well, thanks then. Looked into a maths book today, so yeah, it's correct...

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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #79 on: October 01, 2006, 04:05:54 pm »
Maybe it's an UK vs US thing whether you can use the "that" construct or not?


"Probability of something happening" or "probability that something will happen" are both correct.

"Probability that something happens" is incorrect, by the strict standards.

Are you sure? How about

"the probability that it rains on Thursdays is 1/7"?

Sounds better to me than

"the probability that it will rain on Thursdays is 1/7"?    (i.e. speaking of thursdays in general, not a particular one)

actually the first sentence you did would refer to general thursdays as you used plural for them and it should be:

the probability OF it raining on Thursday is 1/7

don't listen to Americans...they spell aluminium like aluminum :/
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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #80 on: October 01, 2006, 06:02:37 pm »
Maybe it's an UK vs US thing whether you can use the "that" construct or not?


"Probability of something happening" or "probability that something will happen" are both correct.

"Probability that something happens" is incorrect, by the strict standards.

Are you sure? How about

"the probability that it rains on Thursdays is 1/7"?

Sounds better to me than

"the probability that it will rain on Thursdays is 1/7"?    (i.e. speaking of thursdays in general, not a particular one)

actually the first sentence you did would refer to general thursdays as you used plural for them and it should be:

the probability OF it raining on Thursday is 1/7

don't listen to Americans...they spell aluminium like aluminum :/

And "colour" like "color"

Way to screw up the ENGLISH language.

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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #81 on: October 01, 2006, 09:44:33 pm »
(i.e. speaking of thursdays in general, not a particular one)

actually the first sentence you did would refer to general thursdays as you used plural for them and it should be:

the probability OF it raining on Thursday is 1/7

don't listen to Americans...they spell aluminium like aluminum :/

Don't listen to druggie Brits. they spell aluminum like aluminium, and furthermore don't even read your post thoroughly.


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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #82 on: October 01, 2006, 10:03:51 pm »
I played an orienteering-style math puzzle game today. My team's name was "The ∀-team".
Just close your eyes and keep your mind wide open.

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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #83 on: October 01, 2006, 11:02:24 pm »
(i.e. speaking of thursdays in general, not a particular one)

actually the first sentence you did would refer to general thursdays as you used plural for them and it should be:

the probability OF it raining on Thursday is 1/7

don't listen to Americans...they spell aluminium like aluminum :/

Don't listen to druggie Brits. they spell aluminum like aluminium, and furthermore don't even read your post thoroughly.

LOL yeah, we English abuse the English language and change spellings to confuse Americans...
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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #84 on: October 02, 2006, 12:15:20 am »
LOL yeah, we English abuse the English language and change spellings to confuse Americans...

the point is there's no such thing as "English." There's a spectrum of mutually intelligible dialects, none of which has any superiority in relation to any others. As you get farther down the spectrum intelligibility is lost; someone from Louisiana would have all manner of trouble conversing with a Scotsman, but it's not because either of them are speaking English wrong. It's because they're speaking different dialects with different words, structures, phonology, etc.

Perhaps we should all speak as Beowulf is written?


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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #85 on: October 02, 2006, 12:20:08 am »
As you get farther down the spectrum intelligibility is lost

America is near the bottom :(
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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #86 on: October 02, 2006, 12:27:49 am »

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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #87 on: October 02, 2006, 12:28:18 am »
YOU BASTARD!!!


but well done :D
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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #88 on: October 02, 2006, 01:40:33 am »
woooo! damn the man!

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Re: I say, I say, I say..
« Reply #89 on: October 02, 2006, 06:03:56 am »
As you get farther down the spectrum intelligibility is lost

America is near the bottom :(

... even though most of the people in my state have better grammar than the majority of people in London.  ;)
And hey, we don't pronounce "three" as "free", remember.

It's allllll dialectical, like Prescriptive said. People in Alberta speak... like... this...

ButhenpeopleinNewFoundlandspeaklikethisandseemtocutatlesttwolettersoffofeveryword. Hell, in my own state, people have a habit of pronouncing "ar" as "ah". Don't ask me how it happened; I couldn't say. People in Castille, Spain, pronounce their "s's" as "th's", and people in El Salvador pronounce their double-l's as a rolling j.

How do you think Latin turned into any one of the Romantic Languages? Communication is a constantly changing thing. The same reason people in America stopped spelling "color" as "colour," "shop" as "shoppe," etc. is the same as people on the internet gradually moving away from using capital letters and punctuation to things like "u" for "you" and "pwned" as "owned".
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That's the problem with heroes, really. Their only purpose in life is to thwart others. They make no plans, develop no strategies. They react instead of act. Without villains, heroes would stagnate. Without heroes, villains would be running the world. Heroes have morals. Villains have work ethic.