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how does one learn a language?
« on: June 16, 2006, 10:59:29 am »
Ive been attempting (badly) to learn Finnish for a few months and I honestly have no idea what I'm doing.

How do you go about teaching yourself a language when you honestly have no idea where to start?

Ive contemplated buying some childrens books and such in finnish.. Because isnt that how I learned english?

Input?  ???
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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2006, 11:29:56 am »
Get a Finnish language teacher ;D

Or just buy some dictionaries and some learning books about Finnish grammar.
And after that you can buy some of those childrens' books to find out if you really did learn something.

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2006, 11:47:00 am »
Go to Finland and live there until you know Finnish.

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2006, 12:23:40 pm »
Go to Finland and live there until you know Finnish.

Exactly. The best way to learn a language is to use it constantly. If you only teach yourself a theory and don't practice it's futile.

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2006, 12:39:22 pm »
For finnish language you'd really need a teacher. Finnish language is one of the worlds most complicated languages, so learning by reading and stuff could be really really slow. For starters you should watch a movie or two and keep reading simple stuff.

(i suggest you watch Star Wreck, which can be downloaded free of charge)

oh.. or just move to finland  :)

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2006, 03:37:35 pm »
This thread reminds me that I need to brush up on my french before i head to Europe, which in turn reminds me...

...that you can get these books from penguin, where they have the same stories in French/italian/a bunch of languages and also english  so after you read a story a few times in english, when you go to read it in the other language (as long as you have even a basic grasp) then you start getting the jist of the story and you learn loadsa new words from context and stuff.

i explained that badly. Anyway, it helps me keep up my French. Dont know if they would have a Finnish version though.

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2006, 04:40:13 pm »
This thread reminds me that I need to brush up on my french before i head to Europe, which in turn reminds me...

...that you can get these books from penguin, where they have the same stories in French/italian/a bunch of languages and also english  so after you read a story a few times in english, when you go to read it in the other language (as long as you have even a basic grasp) then you start getting the jist of the story and you learn loadsa new words from context and stuff.

i explained that badly. Anyway, it helps me keep up my French. Dont know if they would have a Finnish version though.

french makes me giggle... I love words like Pamplamouse, Pantalones, Grenouille, Oiseaux, PNEU!
and putting them all in 1 sentence is absolutely delightful

J'ai des pamplamouse dans mes pantalones qui es gros come des grenouille qui a manger des oiseaux ronde come les pneu de l'auto!

and what the heck is up with "droite?"
it's straight... and it's right!
that has to have caused accidents...
"where do I turn?"
"oh, turn droite"
*turns right*
"no no, YOUR OTHER DROITE!"
*crash burn death*

and then their number system... I could imagine them sitting around coming up with the numbers

"ok guys, we have sixty seven, si xty eight and sixty nine, what comes after that?"
"sixty ten!"
"oh, yes. then sixty eleven! perfect"

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2006, 04:45:21 pm »
Grenouille

That's one of the few French words I actually know what means. (Along with chateau, chevalle, pan and escargot although I'm not sure of the spelling in those words)

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2006, 04:59:40 pm »
Go to Finland and live there until you know Finnish.

Yes well Im actually considering it.
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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2006, 05:36:58 pm »
I don't like french one bit. Don't ask me why. "English side ruined, must use french instead. Le grille? What the hell is le grille?" (c) Homer J. Simpson.

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2006, 06:26:51 pm »
I don't like french one bit. Don't ask me why. "English side ruined, must use french instead. Le grille? What the hell is le grille?" (c) Homer J. Simpson.

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2006, 06:39:57 pm »
http://susning.nu/V%E4stg%F6tska

Nu sa i få höra hurnt de geck te när ja geck i skola. Där va ena magister som brukte rottinga var enste gång en gjorde minsta lella ofog. Det var ena riktir plåcha om en ente schötte sek. Men i dachens skola är de di unga he-arna som rår. I dach är det skolläran som får stryk å skötter han sek ente hamnar han e skamvråa i tinninga och blir sparkater. Den som endå vore unger!

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2006, 02:46:18 am »
Get a finnish bf  ;)

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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2006, 02:52:08 am »
Get a finnish bf  ;)

YES! (im better than he is)
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Re: how does one learn a language?
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2006, 05:30:08 am »
* Dimruthien edges behind her current boyfriend and hides :|
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